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5 facts about online dating
Digital technology and smartphones in particular have transformed many aspects of our society, including how people seek out and establish romantic relationships. Few Americans had online dating experience when Pew Research Center first polled on the activity in 2005, but today 15% of U.S. adults report they have used online dating sites or mobile dating apps.
Here are five facts about online dating:
When we first studied online dating habits in 2005, most Americans had little exposure to online dating or to the people who used it, and they tended to view it as a subpar way of meeting people. Today, nearly half of the public knows someone who uses online dating or who has met a spouse or partner via online dating – and attitudes toward online dating have grown progressively more positive.
To be sure, many people remain puzzled that someone would want to find a romantic partner online – 23% of Americans agree with the statement that “people who use online dating sites are desperate” – but in general it is much more culturally acceptable than it was a decade ago.
2 Online dating has jumped among adults under age 25 as well as those in their late 50s and early 60s.
The share of 18- to 24-year-olds who use online dating has roughly tripled from 10% in 2013 to 27% today. Online dating use among 55- to 64-year-olds has also risen substantially since the last Pew Research Center survey on the topic. Today, 12% of 55- to 64-year-olds report ever using an online dating site or mobile dating app versus only 6% in 2013.
One factor behind the substantial growth among younger adults is their use of mobile dating apps. About one-in-five 18- to 24-year olds (22%) now report using mobile dating apps; in 2013, only 5% reported doing so.
3 One-third of people who have used online dating have never actually gone on a date with someone they met on these sites.
If you haven’t found quite what you’re looking for on an online dating site, you aren’t alone. Two thirds of online daters—66%—tell us that they have gone on a date with someone they met through a dating site or dating app. That is a substantial increase from the 43% of online daters who had actually progressed to the date stage when we first asked this question in 2005. But it still means that one-third of online daters have not yet met up in real life with someone they initially found on an online dating site.
4 One-in-five online daters have asked someone else to help them with their profile.
Many online daters enlist their friends in an effort to put their best digital foot forward. Some 22% of online daters have asked someone to help them create or review their profile. Women are especially likely to enlist a friend in helping them craft the perfect profile—30% of female online daters have done this, compared with 16% of men.
5 5% of Americans who are in a marriage or committed relationship say they met their significant other online.
Despite the wealth of digital tools that allow people to search for potential partners, and even as one-in-ten Americans are now using one of the many online dating platforms, the vast majority of relationships still begin offline. Even among Americans who have been with their spouse or partner for five years or less, fully 88% say that they met their partner offline–without the help of a dating site.
Note: This post was originally published on April 20, 2015, and has been updated.

Monica Anderson is a research associate focusing on internet, science and technology at Pew Research Center.
43 Comments
i have been dating online with people arround the world after long time i read this article quite simple and understanding probably should read years ago, but the simplest way i got to have online date is Skype, and how to find best people over skype is different then facebook or other social media sites, here you need someone willing to talk people of his her likes for this i found a very good website called “skype name sharing”, i hope my spellings are good, here i shared my name many times and people always get to me easily, and they are very responsive for free guest post they provide a form where you can write your skype name and bio. and what you want. and next day you will see it on the website and social media of. “skype name sharing”

I expected the amount of couples who met online to be more than 5%. But even more so the 12% that found each other through dating sites sometime in the last 5 years. It is understandable that many couples who met before online dating started to get popular, or even when the concept was more stigmatized, would not have considered it as an option. Maybe they didn’t even know about it. I guess that’s why the prevalence of people in the general population who met their partner online is so low.
Many of my own friends have met their partners online, and if I were to make a rough estimate I’d say that about 30% of them found their current partner through dating sites. But maybe that’s because I have been involved with this industry myself, and gotten to know a lot of other people with the same interests. I guess it depends a lot on age too.
Very interesting study, and quite unexpected results, at least for me. I’ll try to mention it on nätdejtingsidor.net which I’m currently writing for (it’s in swedish though).

Only 5% of couples in a marriage or committed relationship met online? I’ve read other very different stats. I met my fiance online three years ago at age 60, and I frequently meet other couples of all ages who met online, and are quite open about it.
I’m surprised to read that 1/3 of all online daters never went on an actual date (less surprised for those over 50). I see many people (many in their 50’s and 60’s) who need a lot of help getting back out there, and dating is a skill set. One of the positive things about online dating is that it’s a good way to practice for those who are willing to try. The research of the last 20 years on mind/brain/relationships has been very effective in helping some of my clients learn to “rewire” their brains through simple exercises and practices, making it easier for them to use coaching techniques more effectively to pursue dating and relationships with intention and confidence. Sue Mandel DrSuesConnections.com

Only 5% of couples in a marriage or committed relationship met online? I’ve read other very different stats. I met my fiance online three years ago at age 60, and I frequently meet other couples of all ages who met online, and are quite open about it.
I’m surprised to read that 1/3 of all online daters never went on an actual date (less surprised for those over 50). I see many people (many in their 50’s and 60’s) who need a lot of help getting back out there, and dating is a skill set. One of the positive things about online dating is that it’s a good way to practice for those who are willing to try. The research of the last 20 years on mind/brain/relationships has been very effective in helping some of my clients learn to “rewire” their brains through simple exercises and practices, making it easier for them to use coaching techniques more effectively to pursue dating and relationships with intention and confidence.

Words of advice about online dating:
1. Posting pictures on your profile is paramount. But unless the people who are viewing your profile are interested in photography, they are only interested in pictures of YOU. They are NOT interested in pictures of your family, pets, vacation, etc.(unless you’re in these pictures). So don’t post pictures you don’t appear in on your profile.
2. If you make a date and want to break it later, have the decency to call the person on the phone. Only cowards break a date by sending an email or a text message. Also, don’t act like a real jerk by either completely avoiding any contact with the person after you make a date….that is, not calling them, not answering their phone calls, and not returning them……. or waiting until they call you before you tell them you can’t keep the date. Again, have the decency to call them, and make the call when you know you’re not going to keep the date.
3. If someone sends you a message on an internet dating site, and you’re NOT interested, DON’T reply. Sending a reply will probably entice the person to keep sending you more messages. But if you do, don’t say something stupid like you’re already dating someone. It’s not believable….if that’s really your situation, then why are you on the dating site?
4. If the main picture on someone’s profile is appealing to you, and you’re thinking of contacting this person, have the common sense to look at ALL of their pictures, and anything else on their profile that may be important to you, BEFORE you decide to send them a message.
5. If you receive a call for the FIRST time from someone you’ve given your number to, and you can’t talk to them at that time, then YOU should return the call. DON’T tell them to call back. They took the initiative to make the call, and obviously didn’t know it was a bad time for you to speak, so YOU should have the decency to make the return call.
6. Don’t let your friends use your profile to browse through a dating site, especially if you’re a paid subscriber with full membership privileges. Sometimes the friends will contact other members on the site without your knowledge, the recipients will think it’s you, and when they find out it’s someone else, the outcome is not always friendly, …..OR the recipients may not be interested, but think you’re interested in them …because they think you’re the one who sent the message, … and maybe tell their friends about the message they think you sent them……OR your friends could do something that violates the dating site’s terms and conditions which could get you kicked off the site. Most of these dating sites offer a free membership, which may not allow communication with other members, but do allow viewing other member profiles. So when your friends ask you to use your membership to view profiles on a dating site that you belong to, tell them to sign up for their own free membership.
7. Post the CORRECT city and state where you live in your profile….not a place where you used to live, where you want to live, or where your friend lives. It sounds like basic common sense, but intentionally posting a city, state or country where a person doesn’t live does happen. If you’re contacting someone on a dating site, and you tell the person you live somewhere different than what you have posted on your profile, it’s a real turn off, especially if you live in another state or country.
The landscape of online dating and dating apps is actually evolving rapidly into a universe of niche markets and audiences. For the millennials who have grown up with the Internet, there is little or no negative stigma attached. There is no denying that these channels of connection/love/sex/marriage provide platforms for millions of people to expand their playing field for a mate or connection of some type. They range from the ‘traditional’ sites like Match.com all the way to niche sites like 3somearrangements.com for couples to find a 3rd for a relationship or fantasy. It’s very important and actually easy to look at these sites and apps with a level of safety and suspicion. As with anything online, there are scams and hustles…but for those who are searching for that one special connection…these are valuable tools. Love/Desire/Sex are extremely powerful drivers of human behavior. This industry will continue to grow.
Hi would like to get some responses on what you may think feedback advice whatever you can give me I would gladly appreciate it. My names is Anonymous well as I sat looking through facebook during the ending of December to be exact December 18 to now 2015 I noticed going through it allot of couples happy on vacations people,family and friends well not me it bothered me as lot because us people or shall I say myself know that there’s someone out there and feeling the same as I so it clicked let go through my apps and see a dating line and I did for three days searching I became well liked or shall I say noticed the only ones that caught my eye were either from army navy marines and that’s what I chatted with on kik whatsapp. Believing wow handsome good looking guys all out of state some really got my attention then sure enough the more acquainted I got the more fishy they started speaking like Nigeria scams you know but I got pictures then something told me to believe and apart of me told me no so what was I supposed to do you try all these things ways of meeting people and the stars the moon are all promised and you think is this true well I’m quite well minored classy and somewhat sexy I think so that’s what they say but I have a heart and single allot to give kind I want to be a wife companion etc. I was always abused come from a good single mom good schools Catholic school etc. Now these men just are doing the re mission out who knows where handsome cute single and lonely even my mom said wow what makes you think there single and wanting don’t you think there as handsome as that that they have someone to come home to well yeah I thought. Anyways it was really awkward as and obvious the way they corresponded to me like if they were from Nigeria out there why because there English was not like men our troops were taught they speak more properly but yes some are most of them marry fast and they get lost belt so I have heard and ready to settle down because of there leave… Understandable well I’m ready for that awesome. Then all off sudden is they need some help money wise for drinks food etc.well bingo what help do the troops need but our support and respect not money to send them right… And how in the hell do they have access to our soldiers troops information how do they have access to kik whatsapp all the way on the outside of the world do not get it here someone looking for this love date friend companion love at first sight well we believe that and what they promise us or tell us to find out its a scam how can this happen we put our hopes on these dating services majority are scams it’s sad they should investigate more of these phone online dating because that’s y our world is corrupted and people really are victims of this none scense and stupidy. I fell for it which I shouldn’t I gave it a try and look got all excited thinking I was going to meet some imposter who I perceived to be a nice 43 to 46 Sargent from marines military man separated and I looked him up on facebook and what my fantasy illusions self esteem pride respect and self worth on the ground all to shit may I say excuse my language but I was poor me poor me self esteem worse then before …. What should I do or what should I think…. I feel lonely and sad… Thank you
If you’re a guy trying to find a woman online the problem you will run into is the egos these online dating women have developed. I just recently tried online dating again, and I had this chick actually referring to me to her talking to her as “granting an audience”. This chick is a 6.5-7 (scale of 1-10) but because the ratio of 20 guys to 1 girl in the online dating scene she’s gone past thinking she’s a 10 to royalty, in her own mind.

AMEN, you perception is absolutely correct. Women have never had it so good. What I do not understand is this: Most women I initiate sending a pleasant, carefully written message to, do not respond. Then I notice, they are still on the dating site for 2-3 months more or longer. Are they rejecting every guy they hear from? At some point do they get the reality that the perfect, tall, high status handsome gentleman just may not be available to them?

Nah, the problem is it’s virtually impossible to get a man to meet you in person from one of those sites. They’re all just there to write attractive women letters to feel like they’re getting female attention, but getting a date is like pulling teeth, and when you do arrange a date he’ll suddenly “remember that he has to go out of town” or “his mother is sick” or some such other excuse.

I take it you are a nine or a ten. Attitudes like yours are why I would never do online dating. Too many messed up narcissistic men who are truly delusional about their desirability.

The kind of dating services you advertise for are pimping agencies. The Government considers pimping in the streets as a crime and soliciting a woman (prostitute) in the streets a crime too. However, dating services are free to operate and men can have paid sex through these operations and the government allows them carte-blanche, just because they are owned by big money. What a traverse! What a shame.

Daiseree B Bowers • 1 year ago
Hi, I find your website an interesting, and very educational. I am going to use some of your statistical data for my research paper that support my thesis about online dating is an effective way of dating that can lead you into a successful relationship.
Radio LaPrincess • 1 year ago
One thing to take in consideration is when it says 66% got dates from online that doesn’t mean that 66% were all relationships. I did online for several years and got a few dates from it. However, none of those dates ended up being a relationship. Most of them I never saw again. Also important to remember that this also means not everyone had sex with people they met. I never even kissed any of the guys I met, let alone sex. Most were situations where we met (usually not with traditional dates, more like lunch or afternoon) and never saw each other again. The most common reasons were that one or more of us just wasn’t interested or that he lied (usually age or weight).
Otherwise, online didn’t work for me. As a single childless 44 year old woman I just don’t appeal to the crowd I desire, at least online. By this I mean I was only seeking men 10 years around my age (older or younger)without kids. Most of the men who contacted me were much older (often older than my dad), much younger (looking for a cougar or sugar mama), single dads (not interested in being a stepmother), married men, or guys strictly looking for sex. When I did find a man like me he ended up doing things like stalking me. I had a guy Google my photo and show up at an activity I am involved with and another guy threaten to kill me. I had other guys who got way too obsessed, like a guy who insisted I didn’t talk to other men even though we hadn’t met yet (and didn’t because of this). Another guy threatened suicide if I didn’t date him (also never met). When I posted my photos I got hundreds of messages but most were from guys only interested in my looks. I am attractive (former model)but want to be judged based on mutual interests. Most of these men had nothing in common with me. I ended up quitting online dating because it was a waste of time meeting a guy who either lied, had no interest in me (or me in him), or just seeking sex (and usually married).

The sheer magnitude of attention females get on dating sites (some get 100’s of responses a day) can cause their heads to swell. In “real life” I am amazed at the quality of women I can have a good conversation with, and even ask out. Online, I am looking at (no word of a lie) a 3-point “SMV” handicap. You read that right. In real life I can approach and pick up a 7 without too much trouble (although 8’s are starting to get out of my league). Online I have overweight 4’s and women old enough to be my mother giving me the “meh” routine. Women on the sites have an over-estimated sense of their mate value because of the attention they get. Sadly, most of that attention is just horny men looking for “just sex”. Myself, I am forthcoming about my weight, age, income, the fact I have 2 kids and I use recent pictures with body and head shots. That’s right ladies, we know the “headshot only trick”. Average size indeed. Average these days is “FAT”. If you can’t openly represent yourself HONESTLY maybe wait on the dating site and spend some time at the gym first. I don’t know why overweight people feel entitled to date people who put time and effort into eating right and exercising. It’s just baffling.
I think the only reason men use dating sites is they are socially inept and can’t approach women in person. Sure, it’s a neat way to avoid that initial “rejection risk” but trust me guys. It’s WORTH IT. Risk getting rejected. And you’d be surprised how pleasant most people are when rejecting you anyways. In person they say “Oh, well I have a boyfriend” or “Gee I’m really too busy with work right now”. That means NO. Not “let’s be friends” – it means NO! Learn social conventions, learn how to approach women with grace, finesse and zero creepy factor and you can avoid the demoralizing process of the online dating world.
Leave online dating to the horny losers who don’t have the stones to approach a woman in public and say something that wont have her reaching for her rape whistle.

Yes. Very well written. The issue I have with online dating is the dishonesty of the profiles. I wholeheartedly agree with you when you state that if you can’t be honest about weight, height, or even take a full body shot, then online dating may not be right for you
lol you got it in a nutshell… thanks for that comment. my self esteem was in jeopardy of being tarnished with my messing around online and being treated like a dog from 4’s and 5’s when I’ve had the privilege and pleasure of 7’s and up to even 9’s in my company in my offline life .

Chap Oscar Music City Mingle • 1 year ago
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Chap Oscar MusicCityMingle • 1 year ago
We always turn to Pew Research to gain insights that are fact based. The job of every leader is to cultivate and protect trust in a very distrustful world. My goal as a Visionary Thought Leader is to change the dating conversation to a trusting relationship first and foremost.

Good article, can I ask where stat number 5 came from? I am seeing so many different reports on that number.

It’s neat to see how far things have changed. Now you have credible sites for gamers (LFGdating.com) and farmers (farmersonly.com), and not only that but they both have commercials.

I used meetme to find my guy after coming out of a 20 yr relationship. I talked to a lot of different people for a few months and met a few guys from it, who were real and genuine. I finally met my guy and he’s 6 yrs younger than me. We had a lot of common interests and we clicked. It’s been 1 and 1/2 yrs and it’s been great and very interesting. I never thought at 40 I would do this but it’s been a great thing. Still going strong.

I gotta wonder why you don’t talk about the way these online dating sites Rob people blind.How they charge hidden fees pay extremely Hot women to pretend to be into you to the point where if you actually do meet a real person your to gun-shy to believe that it is a REAL person.It’s JUST a BIG FREE FOR ALL SCAM NONE OF IT IS WORTH IT.

I just want to say that online dating should be heavily regulated and include some type of fine of some sort to websites that falsely advertise or allow members to scam others.
Long story short… I was married for 12 years and now recently divorced. I didn’t know where to begin and wasn’t from the generation that did online dating. I’m 33… Any way, I thought what the heck I will give it a shot. I tried zoosk, match, POF, eta. You name it I had a profile on every dating website. I became absolutely horrified because literally 100% of all women I tried to date was a scam. For example. One woman (or so I thought) we had been chatting for a while and the upcoming Friday we were going to go on a date in Atlanta, Ga were I live. At the last minute “she” canceled because apparently she was stuck in Zimbobway and needed me to wire $100 so she could get home. Of course I didn’t fall for the scam but I was so burned up that I wasted all that time. It happened on literary every single dating site and I never had even 1 real person respond. Dating websites are just a ses pool for scammers. I found the old fashion way (bars, parks, Church groups) etc is still the way to go. In my opinion websites should be heavily regulated and fined when scammers get on their website or people post fake pictures.

Hi John, I agree with you 100%, I am from Africa and believe me even us women out there get scammed too. You have people posting fake photos or claiming to be someone they are not, they have become so good at it that the conversations get so real and convincing to everyone who tries to chat with them. like every scammer, they always make a mistake somewhere and when they are caught they become so defensive or abusive. I still believe there are good and genuine people out there, we just have to be wise in our choices and pray for god’s direction..
To the people who are complaining about scammers: A good way to avoid scammers is asking for a picture of him/her on which he/she has to put her right thumb on her left ear while she makes a V-sign with her left hand. Just an example but you get the idea, if he/she does, than you know it’s a real person because let’s be honest here, who on earth has a picture like that online to steal?

A few words of advice about online dating: 1. Posting pictures on your profile is paramount. But unless people viewing your profile are interested in photography, they are only interested in pictures of YOU. They are NOT interested in pictures of your family, pets, vacation, etc. so do not post these kind of pictures.
2. If you make a date then want to break it, have the decency to call the person on the phone. Only cowards break a date by sending an email or a text. Also, don’t act like a real jerk by either not contacting the person at all, or waiting until they call you before you tell them you can’t keep the date. Call them, and call them when you know you’re not going to keep the date.
3. If someone sends you a message on an internet dating site, and you’re NOT interested, DON’T reply. Sending a reply will probably entice the person to keep sending you more messages. Also, don’t say something stupid like you already have a boyfriend or girlfriend. It’s not believable….if that’s really the situation with you, then why are you still on the dating site?
4. Post the CORRECT city and state where you live in your profile. It sounds simple and common sense, but intentionally posting an incorrect city and state does happen.
5. If you receive a call for the first time from someone you’ve given your number to, and you can’t talk to them at that time, then YOU should take the initiative to return the call. DON’T tell them to call back. They made the call, and obviously didn’t know it was a bad time for you to speak.

David Steve Matthe • 2 years ago
Writing on Dating; how do I get a response? is it through Facebook or waiting for sometime? Should I know the person I’m dating. Or it depends to the requirements in terms of matchmaking on profession. It is the first time I get involved on dating. I will continue until I get the right approach.

I had the same doubt in mind a few years ago until I came across MillionaireDating-Sites.com. This site has comprehensive reviews of the best dating sites currently available on the market. And that’s not all; the UI is so simple that I didn’t have the slightest of difficulties in navigating through the site. Moreover, there is also a little blog section, which I’m sure would have loads of interesting content in the near future.

When I first went online in 1994, there was definitely a stigma and people didn’t say how they were meeting. This has dramatically changed. I’m not surprised that 30% of women have asked for help with their profiles. I believe that more men are doing so as well, based on the amount of men I’ve worked with in the past few years. We can thank the use of Facebook and smartphones for helping online dating become a way of bringing happiness to many. I have three weddings to attend this year from couples who met online.

Would be better if more people on here where honest and if the scammers out there where caught and thrown in jail.the the stolen pics and the people in them would press charges instead of allowing their pics to be used,I Realize some don’t know they are being used but alot either do and don’t care or they may even be selling them or prostituting them. Even so some so called Christian sites have fake people plus alot want to charge and no way should you ever evev give out your card out to any site.use a pay care but not your own personal one ever.too many hackers.

I;m one of the 33% who never got a date on any of the dating sites i’ve been on…and ive been on at least 7.

Wow. Seven sites and zero dates.

i so surry pat, u seem so nice too
Polina Slesarchuk • 2 years ago
Pat, I have been thinking that online dating is not for me for quite a long time. I tried Tinder and other apps, was quite shocked how close people want to go from the very start when they write you: what’s up? Do you wanna go to a club? Yeah, my number is 911 and save it as a Booty Call lol. A friend suggested I try kovla.com/datings/us/atlanta when I was at a loss in terms of my online dating experience. To tell you the truth, I did spend some time evaluating both profiles and the meaning behind them by chatting with several guys, and only after that I went on a date. So far it’s been a good experience for me. Not yet sure he is my prince charming, but I am having my next date on Saturday. Wish you luck!
I have used online dating for 14 years and live in Ireland. I married a Russian woman and lived with her 9 years and divorced. We have a better relationship since the divorce her children put too much strain on the relationship. I still continue to date in the Philippines and have met some there. The big problem is many look for money and see a foreign man as a way to get money for their children or family. I would suggest do not marry or buy a house there until you know them at least 2 years. I have heard many horror online dating stories some first hand.

I got involved with a single mother through online dating. It was the biggest mistake of my life. Better to be single for the rest of your life than get involved in a situation where bratty children who aren’t yours test your patience and an antagonistic ex tries to goad you into fights. What the hell was I thinking. I’m lucky I escaped from that mess. Never again.

Encouraging and very valuable information. I have been involved with launching an online dating site (personalitymatch.net) and I can attest that the use is increasing, market is growing, and attitudes are changing. With that growth we are going to find smarter and better online dating sites as well, such as personalitymatch.net -if I say so myself!

My wife and I met online 16 years ago. We are now celebrating our 15th anniversary. We used Christian Matchmaker, and my wife’s best friend filled out the questionnaire for her without her knowing about it. We connected in the two week free trial period. Funny story, I took her pastor out to lunch to learn more about her. Her mother’s best friend was a member of my congregation and she learned about me through that connection. I was divorced, and didn’t want to do the bar scene, or parents without partners, or other church’s singles ministries. In Search Of personals in the paper were not very satisfactory. The questionnaire online gave us a great match up score and included a lot of helpful information about each other. It was met with great ridicule at the time, but I thought it was a great way to meet the right people.

i was always amused, by that commercial, where the woman says she doesn’t have the time to look for a relationship, but wondered how she would find the time to “keep” the relationship. call me old fashion, but you “feel” love, not google it.
Erika Gayle Ettin • 3 years ago
As someone in the industry, I love these results, especially #4. And I can tell you that 60% of my clients are female. alittlenudge.com
Only 5% currently in a marriage or committed relationship met online? Those are not exactly stellar results. I thought is was interesting how many people use the service but have never gone on dates with someone else on the same service. As an industry professional, do those numbers seem right? Why would so many be there but not date?

I’ve heard recently (though I don’t know how true the statistic actually is) that 1 in 3 NEW relationships are now beginning online. In other words, out of all marriages/committed relationships that are existing, which includes people who’ve been married for 20-30 years (before online dating), 5% of THOSE began online. I think it’s a much higher percentage of couples who have recently (last 5 years maybe?) gotten together.
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The Dos and Don’ts of Online Dating
Curious to hear what women thought about their online dating experiences, we asked them. and were floored by their responses. We heard it all . like, “a guy told me he was looking for a girlfriend by next year so he’d have someone to split rent with.” Then there was the charmer who told his date about the time he “got wasted, peed and mopped it up with his clothes, and then wore them.” Um, yeah.
But, if you’re the kind of guy who reads Men’s Fitness . we’d like to assume you know better than to make mistakes like these. Still, navigating the world of online dating can definitely be tricky—what kind of message is clever, but not creepy? What the hell are you supposed to say about yourself in your profile? When do you go in for the kill and ask for a date?
OUT-OF-TOWN AND OUT OF TOUCH
The scenario: “A guy sent me a message saying that he wanted to meet up for a drink, but when I asked when he was free, he said he was ‘going out of town’ for the next two weeks and that we should schedule something after.” — Andrea, 31
The problem. and the solution . If you tell a girl you’re “going out of town,” she’s going to assume you’re busy dating other women. By the time your date comes around, she’ll already have lost interest or have found someone more attentive. If you really are going away, wait until you get back to ask her out. A good rule of thumb: if you aren’t available for a date within 7 days of sending the message, don’t send it.
The scenario: “I recently received a message that said, ‘Damn you’re a pretty white girl, you into muscular black men?’” — Kristen, 27
The problem. and the solution . Aside from the obvious inappropriate nature of the comment to a complete stranger, men should never mention their physical characteristics or their own body parts in an introductory message. Women are easily scared away online, so you should avoid saying anything remotely controversial or predatory. Stick to neutral subjects — like mentioning a common ground you share based on something you read in her profile.
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INSECURE ONLINE DATER The scenario: “It’s so annoying and a major turn-off whenever a guy has something in his profile like ‘still not sure about online dating but. ’” — Randi, 25
The problem. and the solution . We get it. A lot of you are self-conscious about the fact that you’re on a dating site. But obviously if she’s on the site too, you’re both in the same boat. By pointing out your hesitations, she’s bound to assume you’re an insecure person. Just don’t bring it up. If you feel so inclined to explain yourself, wait to do it when you’ve met in person — and be confident about your reasons for joining.
GAMBLER The scenario: “I got a message that said ‘Obviously you’re cute, but I’m just having trouble believing that this is actually you because you seem too good to be true. My buddy thinks you’re real and now we have a $20 bet going. Am I about to lose 20 bucks?” — Kristin, 26
The problem. and the solution . Aside from the fact that this is a pathetic pickup line, it’s certainly never going to work. A lot of women are looking for something serious and have no interest in participating in your immature wager with friends. Flattery is fine, but not to this degree. Try telling her she has a nice smile instead.
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DUMPED AND IN DENIAL The scenario: “I went on a few dates with a guy I met online, and I eventually decided we weren’t compatible, so I was honest with him. He refused to accept it and continued to message me listing all the reasons why we’d be great together.” — Ashley, 30
The problem. and the solution . No matter how strongly you feel about your potential with a woman you meet online, accept the break-up gracefully. There’s obviously a reason she didn’t think it would work out, so why keep trying to pursue someone who is clearly not interested in you? Instead, channel your energy into meeting someone else.
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MISSING IN ACTION The scenario: “One time I was messaging back and forth with a guy for two weeks and having a great conversation, but he was taking too long to ask me out, so I stopped talking to him.” — Kelly, 32
The problem. and the solution . If you’re into her, ask her out! What are you waiting for? And if you’re not, why are you still talking to her? Know that saying, “shit or get off the pot?” It applies here. A general rule: once you’ve sent four messages back and forth, someone should ask someone out — preferably the man. If not, that means it’s time to move on.
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PRESSURE COOKER The scenario: “I was really into someone I went on a few dates with, until he told me he was taking down his online dating profile and he wanted me to do the same.” — Jess, 34
The problem. and the solution . Nothing will scare a girl faster than putting that kind of pressure on her too early into the relationship. When she’s ready to make her exit from the online dating world, she’ll let you know. Or if you feel compelled to bring it up, say something like, “I’m not interested in meeting anyone else online. I’ve been thinking about taking my profile down. What do you think?”
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GENERIC JUNKIE The scenario: “I can’t stand when I get a message that says ‘any fun weekend plans?’ That’s really all they want to know about me?” — Laura, 27
The problem. and the solution . Sending a generic message—especially one as uninteresting as this—is not what’s going to make you stand out from other guys. Trust us, she’s getting a boatload of uninspiring messages like “Hi, how are you?” and “You’re gorgeous, I’d love to chat.” If you want to get her attention, try doing something a bit more personal. One girl we spoke to told a story about a guy who sent her a hilarious quote from the movie she had mentioned in her profile. Pick something specific she wrote about herself, and ask her a follow-up about it. If nothing else, she’ll admire the fact that you took the time to “get to know” her.
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Welcome to Get Safe Online
Safe Online Dating
Online dating sites such as Match.com, eHarmony.com and Zoosk.com take the traditional matchmaking process online and allow people to meet one another via the internet, with many encounters leading to long-term relationships.
The vast majority of people using dating sites are sincere and honest in the information they provide and in their reasons for joining. However, there are exceptions, and you need to be aware of how to keep yourself — and your bank account and savings — protected while meeting people online.
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Never disclose private information on online dating sites.
Be very careful about how and when you meet people in person.
Take every precaution that profiles you are looking at are genuine.
Never be tempted to send or transfer money to people you meet online, however unfortunate their story.

Preventing Identity Theft Your identity is precious. Keep it that way with a few simple precautions.
Social Networking Sites A great way to stay in touch. Make sure it’s safe and secure.
Chatrooms Chatting online is fun, but do you know who you’re actually talking to?
Personal safety when meeting someone in person who you met online.
Stalking and harassment.
Fraud, when people appeal appeal to your better nature to help them out of an ‘unfortunate situation’ by sending money.
People masquerading as somebody who they are not.
Spam. selling or fraud, especially romance fraud.
Webcam blackmail, where fraudsters record things you may do in front of your webcam then use the recording to extort money.
Phishing emails claiming to be from an online dating site and encouraging you to divulge personal information.
Being defrauded by using websites posing as authentic dating sites.
Potential theft of your money if you do not use a secure link when making payments.
Using certain dishonest dating sites that:
Set up ‘pseudo’ or fake profiles where the person you think you have met is actually employed by the site to keep you hanging on. and paying money
Stop sending you contacts and messages as soon as you have paid the fee to receive them

Follow this advice to date safely online
You should check if the dating site you are using is a member of the Online Dating Association (ODA). Membership means that the site has to commit to an industry code of practice that includes honest communication with users, protecting their privacy and providing a mechanism for reporting abuse. Inclusion of the ODA’s logo on the site indicates membership.
Creating your online dating profile. protect your identity and personal information
— Choose a username that doesn’t let everyone know who you are. Don’t include your surname or any other identifying information such as your place of work either in your profile or when you first make contact. — Remember that overtly sexual, provocative or controversial usernames could attract the wrong kind of attention. — Keep contact details private. Stay in control when it comes to how and when you share information. Don’t include your contact information such as your email address, home address, or phone number in your profile or initial communications. Take things slowly and share more information when you feel comfortable doing so. It is impossible to get back information once you have given it away. — Stop communicating with anyone who attempts to pressure you into providing your personal or financial information or who seems to be trying to trick you into providing it. If this happens contact the dating provider immediately to not only protect yourself but other users too.
Password & Security
— Be careful when accessing your account from a public or shared computer so that others can’t view or record your password or personal information. — Be wary of opening email attachments from someone you have only just met — Ensure that you keep your internet security software up to date.
Connecting With New People Online
Get to know people, take your time and trust your instincts. Act with caution and learn more about someone before contacting him or her outside of the dating site. Dating services run mail and chat so you can get to know people in a safer and [monitored/controlled] way. They do it to protect you, not to make money. Use their platform and the added security it gives. If and when you do decide to share an e-mail address think about creating a separate and anonymous email address.
— Sometimes when you’re excited about someone, your instincts can be confused by strong feelings. Take care and take your time when you talk about yourself. You don’t need to give out your life-story the first time you chat – and you shouldn’t. There will be plenty of time to share such details if your relationship develops.
Be Responsible and do your own Research
— There is a limit to an online dating provider’s ability to check the backgrounds of users and verify the information they provide. They cannot do a criminal records check on every user. And a person can become a problem without having a record. Therefore, don’t get a false sense of security because you’re on a dating site; do your own research to learn more about someone and make informed decisions before you decide to meet. Check to see if the person you’re interested in is on other social networking sites like Facebook, do a web search to see if there are other records of the person online, and if possible use google image search to check the profile photos.
Money Requests Are Your Red Light
— Why would someone need to borrow money off somebody they have never met, or only just met? There is no reason for anyone to ask you for money or your financial information, whatever sad or sob story they give. Always keep your bank and account information private. Stop all contact immediately and report the matter to the dating site.
Report Unacceptable or Suspicious Behaviour
— Nobody should have to put up with offensive, insulting and threatening behaviour online any more than they should or would if talking to someone in a bar or café. Trust your instincts and immediately stop communicating with anyone who makes you feel uncomfortable or apprehensive. Never feel embarrassed to report a problem to the dating service. You are helping them and doing other users a favour.
Play it safe when you meet face-to-face
Be smart and stay safe. Going on a date with someone new is an exciting step in a relationship, but continue being careful. Even if you feel you have become closer to someone via email and phone, you should still remember that this person is largely a stranger to you. Therefore it is important that when meeting someone in person, whether it is your first or fifth date, you take precautions and consider these dos and don’ts.
1. Plan it. Say it. Do it.
It’s your date. Agree on what you both want from it before you meet up. Don’t feel pressured to meet before you’re ready or for any longer than you’re comfortable with – a short first date is fine.
2. Meet in public. Stay in public.
The safest plan is to meet somewhere public and stay somewhere public. Make your own way there and back and don’t feel pressured to go home with your date. If you feel ready to move to a private environment, make sure your expectations match your date’s.
3. Get to know the person, not the profile .
The way people interact online isn’t always the same face-to-face. Don’t be offended if your date is more guarded when meeting in person. or if things don’t progress as fast face-to-face.
4. Not going well? Make your excuses and leave.
Don’t feel bad about cutting a date short if you’re not keen. You don’t owe the other person anything, no matter how long you’ve been chatting or what’s been suggested.
5. If you’re raped or sexually assaulted on your date, help is available.
No matter what the circumstances, sexual activity against your will is a crime. Police and charities are here to help and support you.
Contact Rape Crisis or The Survivors Trust , or for more information and advice, including other charities and support groups, visit: www.derbyshire.police.uk/sash
Sadly, people aren’t always what they seem. Dating sites, social networks and other internet services are targeted by scammers. Scammers want one thing and one thing only – money. Here are a few examples of common scammer behaviours to watch out for and report:
1. Declarations of love — If someone you are in contact with starts declaring their love for you within a matter of weeks (or even days or hours), be cautious. You need to know someone to come to love them. Instant messages of love could be someone trying to get right into your life, possibly for all the wrong reasons. Use common sense and don’t be afraid to speak to a friend to get a second opinion. 2. Requests for money — This really should send alarm bells ringing whatever the form the request comes in. Scammers will look to gain your sympathy with the stories they tell. 3. Someone offering you money — Who gives money away to strangers through a dating site? These are always scams. The same goes for anyone with a sure-fire get rich quick schemes. The only one trying to get rich quick is the scammer as he or she fishes for your bank details or other financial information. 4. Threats and blackmail — These are ugly words. But some scammers have tried to threaten money out of people for not showing pictures, webcam footage or messages that they have managed to get out of users online.
Advice for avoiding scammers
— Never ever respond to a request for money. — Never give out bank account or other details. — Beware of the sob story — someone telling you how much they want to visit you but need a loan to pay for the ticket/visas. Or stories about a desperately ill family member who needs help with medical expenses. — The same goes for fantastic too good to be true business deal they are in on – if only they had some extra up-front money….. — Watch out for those profiles that immediately tug on heart strings – supposed ex-serviceman or woman, or those who claim to be recently widowed to gain your trust and sympathy. — Don’t let the passing of time cloud your judgment. These sorts of pitches may take time to come out in messages, time in which you may very well have come to trust and value a relationship with your online contact. That does not make them any less of a lie. — Our same warning goes for pleas of urgency – about money needed at short notice. Someone asking you to use a wire service to get money to them is up to no good. — Be wary of long distance and overseas relationships: They can happen but it is an unlikely way for a relationship to start offline so be wary online. — Notice if a contact seems out of touch or out of kilter: people offering foreign numbers for contact, people who seem not to be aware of things happening in the UK – events, the weather etc, people who want or need to send messages at unusual hours. — Be wary if someone seems vague in their communication about their interests, or may often repeat things or seem disconnected. They may dodge questions or make excuses for not meeting or speaking on the telephone. Their profile or communications may also have odd spelling and grammar. — Do not share pictures or information about yourself or others that gives someone any sort of hold over you. Your private life should stay private until you know someone really well and can start over time to trust them with things. — If you do find someone trying to menace money out of you – don’t. They’d just be back for more. Report them; however bad that might feel at the time. The Police have national and local teams there to attack fraudsters. Let them protect you – and others. — Don’t be afraid to ask a friend – if you start to commit to a relationship online or in person it can be hard to stay objective. If a contact starts to feel strange and especially if money gets raised you might ask a friend or relative if you are not at a point where you think there is something to report to the dating service. If they advise you to back off. listen to them.
Reporting a concern or problem
Don’t assume scammers are illiterate foreigners you and others will see through in an instant. Scamming is a pretty sick line of business but it is a business for them. They practice tugging at heartstrings, at showing tenderness or a neediness. They tell people what they want to hear.
If you suspect that someone you’re talking to may be a scammer, stop your communications and immediately report him or her. You should never feel too stupid or ashamed to report someone. You are not the person who should be ashamed and stopped.
Tell the dating site – and talk to the professionals. All Online Dating Association (ODA) members have to have reporting arrangements to deal with users concerns about a bad experience or suspicious behaviour. Dating site providers want and need to know if there is a problem. They can act to get people off sites immediately to help safeguard you and others. Online dating providers need to know if someone is trying to get hold of your personal information, asking for money or behaving in really inappropriate ways. They monitor regulatory but need to be told if you can see a profile that has obscene, pornographic, abusive, violent or otherwise offensive photos or content. They will act to remove the content and the user.
Any act of violence or abuse should be reported to your local police. If you have been the victim of a sexual assault and do not want to contact the police, the ODA strongly recommends you contact a Sexual Assault Referral Centre (SARC).
If you have been the victim of actual or attempted fraud, report it to Action Fraud, the UK’s national fraud reporting centre by calling 0300 123 20 40 or by visitng www.actionfraud.police.uk
If you’ve experienced cybercrime, you can contact the charity Victim Support for free and confidential support and information.
This page has been compiled with the kind assistance of the Online Dating Association

How Online Dating Works
Online dating can be a tricky world to navigate.
­One of the basic human impulses is to develop a romantic relationship –- and maybe even fall in love. But there are a lot of obstacles that might keep someone from meeting the love of his or her life in today’s world. Maybe dating co-workers is against company policy. Perhaps you hate the bar scene. You might not be in the right mood to meet your soul mate while you’re trekking through the grocery store.
People of all ages, lifestyles and locations have been facing this problem for decades. In the last 10 years or so, a new solution has arrived to help lonely hearts find their soul mates: online dating.
­Online dating is simply a method of meeting people, and it has advantages and disadvantages. The variety of dating sites is constantly growing, with many sites focused on very specific groups or interests. There are sites for seniors, sites for Muslims, sites for fitness-oriented people, sites for people just looking for friends and sites for people who are interested in more adult activities. In this article, we’ll be focusing on the most basic type of dating site –- one that works to bring two people together for a romantic relationship. While this article applies to the majority of popular dating sites, the rules and practices of any given individual site may differ.
Once you decide you’re going to give it a shot, the first thing you need to do is create your profile. See the next page to get started, and learn what online dating is like, find out how (and if) it works and get some helpful tips on making your online dating experience safe and successful.
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Online Dating: Good Thing or Bad Thing?
Thanks to Max K. from Brooklyn, NY for suggesting this week’s topic:
The first prominent online dating site was Match.com, which launched in 1995. eHarmony started in 2000, OkCupid in 2004, and more recently, a wave of mobile people-swiping apps, like Tinder and Hinge, have become wildly popular.
But is this a positive development or something to be concerned about? Is online dating making the world better and dating more effective, or is something important being lost or sacrificed as a result? The way the current trend is heading, what will dating be like in 2030, and will that be a better or worse time to be on the dating market than 1995? Ideally, what would dating look like in 2030?
Tim’s Answer: I think this is a no-brainer positive development. The key thing is that it’s not online dating —it’s online meeting people followed by in-person dating. I think the term “online dating” is part of the problem and makes people who don’t know much about it think it refers to people forming entire relationships online and only meeting in person much later.
Simply considered as online meeting people, it makes a ton of sense. I’ve already expressed my argument for why in two posts: one on how critical it is to find the right life partner and how seriously we should take that quest, and another on why going to bars is a terrible life experience. The first step in ending up with the right person is meeting the right person, and for something so important in our lives, we’ve had no real system for doing it efficiently and intelligently. For socially weird or anxious or shy people, trying to meet a stranger in public is a nightmare, and even for someone charming and outgoing, it’s a grueling task that requires a lot of luck. The alternative that often happens is meeting someone through friends, which can work, but it’s limiting yourself to single people your closest friends and family happen to know.
Effective dating definitely needs to take place in person, the same way your grandfather did it, but I see no good reason why meeting people to date in the first place can’t be systematic and efficient. Yes, there’s something special about the romance of meeting someone in public and hitting it off right away, but that rarely happens—and for the most important mission in most of our lives, it makes no sense to crush your ability to meet great people to try a first date with because it’s not as good a story to have met them online. I have a friend that goes on two or three first dates every week with people he already knows are potentially good personality and physical matches for him— that’s how you find the right person, and good luck keeping up with him meeting people the old-fashioned way. And for people who have no interest in serious dating and just want to find people to hook up with? Online is a much better way to accomplish that too.
As for the current online dating options—they strike me as a good first crack at this by humanity, but the kind of thing we’ll significantly improve on to the point where the way it was done in 2014 will seem highly outdated in not too many years. Now that the stigma has diminished, you know this industry is going to race ahead because there’s so much money to be made by whoever can be innovative. So in 2030, I think we’ll be somewhere very different, and I think today’s nine-year-olds will have really incredible ways of finding love when they’re 25. Maybe I’m a future stubborn old man about dating being in-person, but I believe that needs to stay that way and the innovation in this industry should hone in more and more on optimizing the process of getting the exact right people on first dates with each other—that’s its job.
Online dating enables a significantly larger pool of life partner candidates, thus more meetings with them. Just like the way a bubble sort algorithm works, in every meeting one person seeks to find his/her perfect match.
On the other hand, we are not objects, we have emotions. Every meeting which makes its way to a relationship, tends to involve feelings. One way or another, hearts get broken. A person who “tried” 100 candidates gets his heart broken, let’s say, half the time which is 50. High number of candidates doesn’t always mean it is good for us.
Another thing is, the awareness that there are a lot of fish in the pool makes us ungrateful and dissatisfying. I can have a dinner with a 9 and seek to meet other women with an unrealistic expectation to find a 10.
Since this marriage thing is not measured by numbers I don’t think that we can ever be 100% sure that we made the most accurate decision. We all are gonna end up lying in bed next to X, thinking “what if I ended up with Y?” It’s not supposed to be perfect because we are teenie tiny creatures (Not even type 1) in the universe. Just marry the woman your mama finds, whatever.
So you think that the ability to meet a greater number of people provided by online dating might actually be a bad thing because meeting/dating more people results in more heartbreaks…?
Not necessarily. I just want to point out that a linear increase in chance of finding the “perfect person” is not achieved by dating more people, but there are adverse effects.
However, if you can manage to erase a person completely from your life when your dating/relationship ends with him, then this doesn’t apply to you.
It increases your chances mathematically, granted, but in the meantime it makes you indecisive, builds you up in a way to make you hesitate, if you encounter your “the one”. Littlest flaws are going to irritate you even if he is completely perfect in every other ways (to vague I know) but you are going to take him granted and dump him to try new ones.
You make a solid point about the potential for an overwhelming volume of interactions.
The long-standing joke about bisexuals is that they have “double the chance for a date on Saturday night,” to which I counter, “Yeah, but also twice the chance for rejection.”
Lol I don’t know about that but it must be twice the fun!
I don’t know about that because I’m usually not that smooth.
Met my current husband on match…. 8 years ago! We have been married 7 1/2 years and he is my best friend. I’m an introvert – good at people watching, poor at people interactions. I had my list of what I wanted, and stuck to that list. Took a few non-matching first dates until I met the right person. I don’t go to bars or belong to a church. Mid-age, work FT, with 2 teenagers. Online dating is effective in helping to meet people, but it’s up to you to say yay or nay if that person is who you are looking for. Stick to the general rules – meet in public, know what you want, and stick with your list!
Haha, I met my wife in 2012 via Match.com. Tim, I couldn’t agree more that what we call “Online dating” should really be called “Online meeting people.” The real benefit of it is that your pool of potential mates is expanded massively. Even though my wife and I lived only about a mile away from each other, the chances of us A. Being in the same place at the same time and B. Having that be a situation where we could realistically meet and make a connection was essentially zero. But on Match, that connection could happen. Stay open to meeting people in more “traditional” ways, but realize that online dating is a great chance to meet a fling, a girlfriend/boyfriend, or a future spouse.
Well said. Online meeting people doesn’t exclude the possibility of meeting someone by “traditional” means.
I absolutely don’t judge people who do it… but I’ve never had any interest. My only experience involved getting coerced by a well-meaning friend into setting up a profile on a mainstream website- my first (and last) message was from a man using the oh-so-clever screen name ‘Cunny Funt.’ I quit the site immediately.
What is it that deters your interest in online dating over the more traditional type of dating though? They’re are crass people out in the real word, in bars and stuff too, right?
Mostly I guess I really hate that small-talk-getting-to-know-each-other stage… I’m a pretty hardcore introvert. If I’m going to meet someone I’d prefer it be someone I meet in my environment and get to know over time with no preconceived hopes or expectations. I’m aware I’m limiting myself that way, but I’m not that pushed to meet someone. If it happens, it happens, and if it doesn’t I’m ok with that, too.
I’m not saying that you should try again or not… But I would venture to say you may have gotten a tainted sample of what online dating is like!
I can accept the idea that I was just extremely unlucky on that occasion… but it did reinforce my feeling that I don’t have the time or bandwidth just now to weed out the Cunny Funts of the world.
You do have to be prepared to have your creep-a-zoid filters on–at least if you are looking to date men (I’m sure women present their own pitfalls though). I just read right past the annoying ones so they never bothered me. Delete. Delete. Delete. And I always left my chat settings turned to “off.” BUT, I can see that wading through that muck might not be for everyone.
I believe that in theory, online dating is great, but as a (now married) woman and also a writer: I wouldn’t dip my pinkie toe into that pool. I’ve seen more than a few freelance opportunities for ghostwriting online dating ads and managing the accounts’ messages. Things along the lines of, “I have about 300 women a month I need you to try to romance, and tweak this or that about my profile just a few degrees closer to successful.” People want to find someone and try to shape their image and identity in all sorts of anxiety-inducing ways for all parties involved. I imagine desperate men and women trying to perfect their digital images, advertising themselves and then going out on dates and trying to personify whatever they crafted that sparked interest from a stranger. With all that noise in their heads, how can they get over themselves and relax enough to make any sort of reality-based decision? The best way to find a partner, in my opinion, is to be present. Out in the open. Cultivating presence in some part of society or your community. Go to a bookstore or a museum or take a class. Let yourself observe people and be observed, and pay attention. No matter what’s on these dating platforms, I don’t think it could hold a candle to unrehearsed, unpredictable human behavior. Besides, some of the embarrassing little slips of tongue and clumsiness that tend to color first meeting a potential partner are incredibly sweet, insightful, and reveal instantly how a person relates to you when you behave imperfectly or show vulnerability. Can’t get a first impression with that kind of depth from a web page.
There aren’t fake people in bookstores and museums? I’ve been hanging out in the wrong places!!
I think it’s more difficult to fake a mutual interest in many subjects than it is to fake being a different person or to fake being interested in a person. if you met someone who faked being interested in something you genuinely enjoy, wouldn’t the glaring proof be in the pudding?
I agree that it is probably easier to fake interests or fake being a different person altogether online. Although I do think that if you approach online dating as most would if they are taking it seriously (i.e. meeting someone in person after being, in a sense, introduced online) it would all funnel into a “proof in the pudding” situation.
There are a few online dating coaches that you can pay to give you advice on how/what to fill out I your profile.
Meh, I think that goes into the category of price-of-entry. It’s like Tim says–online dating is about MEETING people–generally lots of them–and each person is a cipher that more or less fits your on-paper parameters, you really have no idea if you’ll like them until you meet them, and generally for online dating to work well, the plan should be to meet many people.
Sure, there are douchebags out there, and the occasional creep will slip through the sensors and make it to a meet-up…where they will completely crash and burn. So you don’s see them again. (And if you’re smart, you go into every first date with a backup escape plan in case they are actually unpleasant–though most people are quite nice even if you’re not interested in them).
And all of that spontaneity and awkwardness that you talk about is just as likely to happen with someone you’ve met online as it is with someone you’ve met anywhere else. Or at least that’s been my experience. It’s why you don’t waste time corresponding online beyond establishing a mutual interest in meeting up–just go meet them already!
Meh, I think that goes into the category of price-of-entry. It’s like Tim says–online dating is about MEETING people–generally lots of them–and each person is a cipher that more or less fits your on-paper parameters, you really have no idea if you’ll like them until you meet them, and generally for online dating to work well, the plan should be to meet many people.
Sure, there are douchebags out there, and the occasional creep will slip through the sensors and make it to a meet-up…where they will completely crash and burn. So you don’s see them again. (And if you’re smart, you go into every first date with a backup escape plan in case they are actually unpleasant–though most people are quite nice even if you’re not interested in them).
And all of that spontaneity and awkwardness that you talk about is just as likely to happen with someone you’ve met online as it is with someone you’ve met anywhere else. Or at least that’s been my experience. It’s why you don’t waste time corresponding online beyond establishing a mutual interest in meeting up–just go meet them already!
I think it’s a good thing, but also believe it should be re-framed to be thought of as Online Meeting People. I’ve tried it a few times (in so much as I made an online profile and exchanged a few messages) but the pressure to make it into something more as soon as possible was just too much for me. I need a LOOOOONG time before I can feel comfortable with someone to consider anything physical and as far as I can tell people want to either go straight to physical or are obsessed with long term relationship/marriage so they want to progress the getting to know you stage really fast.
Also, I hope the future matching algorithms will be a lot more sophisticated and therefore make meeting the right person that much easier. Perhaps some sort of gentle counselling along the way wouldn’t go amiss. Like so many people I found myself being drawn to profiles of people who were way out of my league. That’s really disheartening. Maybe the future matching software will simply not even show us those people who wouldn’t even consider us in the first place, therefore saving everyone a lot of hurt feelings.
I think MeetUp is the way to go. You start out with a common interest in a place that is usually not a bar or a church. Go from there. You can still have a dating profile and exchange that info if you want to use their algorithms to confirm or dispute your gut feelings about someone. The profiles are also good for getting a lot of difficult topics out in the open. But starting with the in person bit is key, I think.
I disagree with you all! Because I’m not sure that looking for a life partner is the best way to find one, or that we should feel there’s something missing in our lives if we don’t have a partner. The whole beauty of romance is it grows when you don’t expect it. Like friendship, of which it is but an extension, it should blossom spontaneously and naturally. If you want to meet new people, get on Twitter. I’ve met loads of new friends that way and I know people who’ve met their partners, but it happened naturally.
This is looking at a major part of life very passively. It would be great if everyone were just spontaneously romanced one day, but the reality of the situation is that some people would end up literally waiting an entire lifetime.
I think its a very good thing – but I am biased because its how I met the love of my life. He contacted me after I had almost given up looking (a year and a half of mis-matched/bad dates can take its toll), proposed to me a month after we met, and we have been happily married going on 11 years now. My advise to anyone dating online would be to meet the person as soon as possible – don’t drag it out online.
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I think the truth is that we don’t know what qualities to look for in a romantic partner. Eli J. Finkel have some interest findings to support this.[1] One way to make matching more efficient could be by “taming the mammoth” and start interacting more with people everyday.
And my age precludes me from participating in this discussion well. Darn
It cannot be entirely good or bad, just like all those other online tools we’re using in our every day lives. And it should be regarded as nothing more than a tool to get you nose out in the open world of dating. It has its limits and I am glad I see a lot of people around me that are aware of those limitations. It can never replace meeting people in person.
The tricky part of meeting people online is that it only broadens the pool of people to chose from but does not help too much with the actual choosing phase, or any other phase of builing a relationship. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying the offline world cannot be deceiving, but I am rather certain that it will never be as deceiving as the online one is. What bothers me sometimes is the superficiality of our lives and online dating tends to encourage illusions. Nothing tears a heart apart worse than illusions.
I have seen happy couples that met online and have several years of marriage/relationship already. It can work out pretty well, I’m sure. However, my point is, it can be really fun, nice to try out, once in a while, but it should definitely not be taken as an only option.
One definitely needs to work on having a pretty good idea of what he/she is looking for before starting dating. Ideally, at least. Once you know, you’ll know where to look as well
I find that overall it’s a good thing. But I’d argue against sites like match.com simply because the premise is wrong. In my opinion love should happen organically, evolving from a friendship between two people that enjoy the other’s company. It shouldn’t be forced.
Online meeting of people can happen in many ways (i.e Online Gaming, I’ve met many good friends and a couple of partners that way). I think that this way of doing it is far better for the relationship, since a life partner should also be your friend.
I’m not saying anything against powerful bonds made through dating sites, but I do think that going into the site actively looking for a partner is not the best way to do it.
How else would you approach online dating if you’re not doing onto the site actively looking for a partner?
I see it as another nail in the coffin of having social skills. People used to have a social life and were good at making new acquaintances in person. They often use the excuse “I’m too busy to meet people” but have copious amounts of time to browse profiles or play video games.
On the other hand, as a midlife single mother, I’ve had three tries at online dating and each was a similar experience (and why I finally decided to delete my profile again). The men my age are more likely to try for younger women without children and the younger men pursued me for flings. Thanks, but I’m not desperate so online dating was a bust for me. Your chances are better if you’re young, attractive and don’t have “baggage.”
I wish guys my age would see that a woman his age is a good thing and not a bad one. I hope you find your perfect match, Sheila!
Speaking for myself, I don’t pay attention to age. I’m 35 and I find it hard to relate to people a decade younger so I have set my “search” accordingly. I have never felt more judged than when meeting women from around 35-43. Is this due to the “maturity gap” between men and women? I dunno. I do know that younger women tend to not have as many preconceived notions that I can trigger and wind up having a lame evening out. This is anecdotal at best I know – just wanted to say that not everybody is biased this way.
That’s refreshing, Jeremiah! I guess I can understand that a younger lady may less judgy. I think a single lady in her thirties is less likely to put up with something she doesn’t want than one in her twenties. We know ourselves better and know that we’re unlikely to change now.
I like Dan Savage’s advice in the matter: “There is no settling down without settling for.” As well as his corollary, “Not putting the lid back on the mayonnaise is the ‘price of admission’ to all the great parts about this person.” The idea that one person meets all of your needs is perhaps foolhardy. In my 20s I definitely tried hard to find that “magic person”. In my 30s, I want somebody who gives me the space to be me and uses their space in a way that I find welcoming. Adults date much differently than kids.
When I was younger I would agree with everything just to be polite – now (34) I’m more likely to be myself and disagree rather than pretending to be something I’m not.
So you’re saying that you don’t pay attention to age, but yet, you’re making a blanket statement about older women being more judgmental…? Why would that be the case?
I’m a 33 year old single woman (which seems to be the least appealing thing to a 33 year old man). I’ve been on eHarmony, Match, and even Christian Mingle and had pretty much the same results in each experience. Men 40 years and up are all over me. Men my age are seeking “22-28” girls. The age thing bugs me.
Online sites are useful to find someone with similar interests and values who lives nearby. But it’s not at all useful to gauge chemistry. The last guy I dated turned out to be not The One. But by the time we’d actually met, we’d had weeks of online chatting and phone conversation and it felt like throwing something away to just quit after the first date revealed to me that I was not attracted to him. Our personalities clashed and he genuinely annoyed me. But I went out with him for two months because I’m old and our profiles were a really strong match.
I think what needs to happen is that we see the person online, note some type of attraction, and then immediately meet to see if there’s chemistry. At least that’s what I’m doing next.
I think that’s the best thing to do! The profiles and online chemistry are never going to be able to match the subtleties of what make people a real match.
Very true, I’ve found a quick meeting for coffee preferable to weeks of emailing and calling.
I disagree with the ‘immediately’ meeting someone from the internet. Really bad advice, especially for a woman. Take your time. Trust your gut. If at some point you feel a strong interest/compatibility and the person seems honest and real, then yes, arrange a meet. It doesn’t have to take weeks, and if it does that’s ok too. Why would you continue dating someone who you knew you were not attracted to and genuinely annoyed you? It shows you are willing to ignore your instincts, and that can lead to all kinds of drama.
Thanks for the encouragement.
People “from the internet” are no more likely to be dangerous than people “from the coffee shop”.
People on the internet can easily be deceived and those looking to deceive take advantage of that. People sitting around at a coffee shop are usually there to have some coffee or do their homework. People on dating sites generally have different reasons for being there and many aren’t good.
Mya, I’m interested in why you think a quick meetup is such a bad thing. I’m talking meeting someone for coffee or a quick happy hour drink, not an expensive dinner or other big production (which in my opinion puts too much pressure on a 1st date, especially one from the internet where you have no previous in-person contact). In my experience, there’s no way to tell whether you and your date have chemistry unless you meet in person, so why draw that process out? Meet up with them quickly and either you like each other (yay!) or you don’t and then you move on.
@ Seth – I’m not talking about some big production, just meeting over coffee. And of course you can tell quite a bit about someone before meeting. Sometimes the first email, or phone call is all that is needed to know it’s not going to go further. I don’t need to meet them to know that. I don’t want to go meet some guy who ends up talking about himself the whole time, who never asks about me, or may end up just wanting to jump in bed and/or won’t take no for an answer. Dating sites are full of men who have less than good intentions and they hope to find people like SaraNoH up there who ignores common sense because she may be a bit desperate.
You can find out quite a bit about someone by a combination of their profile, emails and phone conversations, at least enough to know if there is a reason to take it further. Other than the compatibility issue, there is the safety issue, especially for women. You are a guy, yes? Online dating is very different for women vs men. Women are much more at risk than a man for sexual violence especially meeting strangers from the internet. Then there’s the men who are married and lying about it – happens more often than you may realize.
I’ve met a lot of people through dating sites over the years and have learned quite a bit about the process. I know what to look for and won’t waste my time or put myself in harms way just because someone isn’t willing to spend a little time beforehand. Oh, and never have alcohol when meeting a guy for the first time.
There’s no rush. Take your time. Know what you want, listen and don’t settle.
Mya, I’m interested to know how that’s worked for you, because I tried both approaches when I first started online dating. I found that talking for a long time online with someone built an idea in my head about who they were that just was not accurate when I met them in person. On the other side, when I would arrange to meet up with someone after one or two emails, my preconceived notions of who they were had not yet been formed, and it was easier to learn who they were. I also found that I got along much better with people I would meet up with soon after “meeting online” than people I had long drawn out exchanges with first. In fact, the only truly bad dates I ever had were with people that I had drawn out interactions with, to the point where if they insisted on that l would just file them under “not my type” and move on. Meeting in a public place for drinks never made any of my dates feel in danger, either. You have to approach this in a way you feel comfortable with, but because of my experiences and my friends experiences, I would not recommend trying to cultivate a relationship online first, but that’s why I wanted to know if this approach had been successful for you.
@ Adam – Meeting someone after a couple emails, especially for a woman is not wise. I would never meet anyone before speaking on the phone first and I won’t rush to call them either. If there is a good vibe, a sense of honesty, compatibility and no major red flags, then yes, the next step would be a phone call, if that goes well, arrange a meeting.
You said you formed an idea about who someone was based on extensive emails and were disappointed that they were not what you expected when you met. I’m not surprised since you only went by text on a screen. Words on a screen mean nothing without a live person to back them up. You have absolutely no idea who you are exchanging emails with. None. And again, being a guy, assuming you are, it’s a very different experience than for a woman. Women are bombarded with creeps online. Some are more upfront about their creepiness than others so you have to know what to look for. It’s not only about creeps, it’s interest. For instance, one guy I had an online conversation with seemed interesting, real and compatible and I wanted to know more, so I called him. He spoke for a solid hour about himself without barely taking a breath, never once asking about me. I felt like I should have sent him a bill at the end. That was enough for me to know I did not want to take it further. I called another guy who I was interested in after some emails, (he was in a rush to meet and said he’d rather not waste time on the phone) and he had to whisper the whole conversation because his girlfriend was in the other room. No thanks. Another guy who I was exchanging emails with and was getting close to calling, ended up having a wife he forgot to mention in our back and forths. I found out by his wife emailing me. She had logged onto his account and saw our exchanges. Another bullet dodged. Should I instead have just met these guys after a couple email exchanges? No. Have I had any good experiences? Yes, many. But only because I used common sense. You don’t have to ‘cultivate a relationship online’ before meeting. But using common sense and taking certain steps prevents a lot of unnecessary drama.
Even if you’ve established someone is good, interesting and possibly a good match via emails, phone calls and/or video-chats, you really can’t get the full picture of who they are or how well you get along until you meet. You have to stay open and see where it goes. You have to consider there is the chance they will not be what you expect, sometimes they are better.
The age parameter thing bugs me too. This is not my optimal range, but just for example, what if I specify 35-55 and the person of my dreams is 34.267134658 years old? And they probably specified an age range that doesn’t include me, so if I were to initiate contact, they’d be like “Whatever.” Funny thing is, I tend to get approached in-person by people in a much younger (legal) age range.
I really don´t know much about online dating, but i think that people should be very sad and lonely to use that kind of services. I like this video about it: https://www.ted.com/talks/amy_webb_how_i_hacked_online_dating?language=en
It’s just another tool for meeting people and very useful. You clearly don’t know much about it.
I think it is a great idea, for those who have patience on finding someone special. I dont like online dating options such as tinder – it basically give you a picture of someone that you find phisically attractive, and then you chat with this person, who lives a few miles away – Thats not the right way. But websites like eharmony were a good thing! (were, because at least here in Brazil, eharmony is offline)
I remember that I was complaining about being single and my friend (who was making fun of my single-ness) asked me ‘well if you cant find anyone in real life, why dont you just join those dating-websites?’ – by that time she was making fun of me, but it was a rainy sunday and I thought: well, why not? – then I joined eharmony. I remember spending a REALLY LONG TIME to fill all those questions and etc that they ask you in the beggining, so they could find someone with the same interests and match you with this person, then you decide wether you talk to them or not.
Lucky or not, in the first 24 hours, i met at least 6 nice guys, but one in special caught my attention: he happens to be someone i’ve been living with or almost a year now! I assume I entered the website with really low expectations, just to see how it would turn out, and it turned out that I’ve found someone really special, in less than a day! ha! how lucky!!
As for him, he’s been using online dating for a while, like, he dated a lot of girls online and he was very dissapointed lots and lots of times. But he was persistent, then he’s happy with me now (at least he says so hahaha). Well, I believe that hanging out in bars never helped anyone. Most people ar drunk or interested in one-night-stand or some hottie and stuff. I believe online dating kinda “filter” those people. It actually matches you with people who actually have the same interests – of course sometimes the chemistry doesnt happen – but sometimes is does. It gets much more easier when you already have lots of things in common!!
I have long thought of online dating as the fully-adult equivalent of meeting people at college parties.
The online part, when you’re looking around at all of the profiles, messaging each other, and deciding who to actually meet? That’s like scanning the room at the party to see if anyone looks interesting.*
The first meetup in online dating (I hesitate to call the first time a date) is like when you walk up to that interesting person and strike up a conversation. You’re basically testing for chemistry, both in terms of attraction, but also conversation and personality.
If the chemistry is mutual, you’ll probably find some way or other to continue the acquaintance and see where it goes from there. At this point, online dating syncs up completely with real-world dating, except that it is WAY LESS AWKWARD. When you have mutual chemistry in real life, you have to negotiate figuring out if you’re both single and looking, and there’s this whole dance where you have to both indicate your interest and someone has to be brave and make a move. In online dating, none of this is necessary! You’ve both put out there more or less what you’re looking for. So if the chemistry’s there, continuing the acquaintance is the easiest thing ever. If there’s not, no biggie. If there is but it’s only one-way, that sucks and there’s a bit of awkwardness and rejection involved, but everyone deals with it and moves on quickly to the next person.
All of this means that one of the really big keys to online dating is not wasting a lot of time in the online part. You really know basically nothing about the person until you meet them in person, not even if you’ll find them attractive, let alone have chemistry; so don’t give your brain a chance to fill in the blanks with a fantasy person. If someone looks interesting, go meet them right away if they’re up for it.
The only downside of online dating in my mind (as long as you follow the advice in the above paragraph) is that it takes a lot of social energy to meet people. It’s not something I can do all of the time. And the last two relationships I’ve been in have started when I’ve met real world people while in a phase where I didn’t have the energy for online dating, so go figure. But when I’ve been up for online dating, it’s been great.
*At this stage you’re really just guessing, but it’s educated guessing. And you’re most likely ruling out most people you see based on what you find attractive and your people-reading abilities. As a bonus, in online dating, it’s as if for every person that looks interesting, you’ve got a friend who kind of knows them a little bit, and can tell you things about them that will confirm the interest, or let you know you should skip this one. But no matter how interesting someone looks from afar, and no matter how interesting their biography, you’re still going to want to meet them before you decide anything else.
I don’t mind people who use it but I honestly dont think its a good thing. I think a relationship should start by person to person, face to face, in real life. This way we can develope a more deep relationship in which we can understand the other side better, In my opinion online dating seems like a shallow way to actually find a partner since we can only communicate with a computer screen instead of a more personal setting like real life. Also in my views online dating seems like a “I’m gonna look at this persons face and if they are not attractive enough its a pass” type system. Either way I don’t mind online dating becoming popular, Its just that I’m not going to use it.
I met my partner of 4 years on OkCupid. We sent messages back and forth for quite some time before actually meeting in person. I like to get to know someone well before I open up to them, whether that is by talking in person or online. What I like about online dating, is that most people you find on dating sites are actually looking for a relationship (or you can filter the rest out quite easily based on their profiles – or by what you put on your own profile). Also, you have access to more people than you would meet in real life, so also more people you share interests and values with.
I am an introverted person, and in real life it is harder for me to start a conversation with someone I might be interested in than it is online. When I decided I wanted to start dating I roughly imagined what kind of person I was looking for, and where I would be most likely to find that person. That place was online, because I was looking for someone who, like me, did not feel the need to be involved in social activities much outside work, someone who’s hobbies would include reading and gaming. Without OkCupid, by partner and I would probably never have met. Today, it is not important at all anymore to us how we met, what counts is that we’re together now.
The things about online dating that I dislike, are things that happen offline as well: people judging solely based on appearance, people having ridiculously long lists of demands for potential lovers, et cetera.
I think it’s positive. But I also think there are far too many hurdles in the way for it to work properly at the moment, which is why so many people have bad experiences (especially women, it seems – anecdata not hard evidence here). Here’s why:
1. Firstly, just like in the article “How to pick your life partner”, people are generally bad at knowing what they want from relationships. Online dating currently hasn’t done a lot to address this. Profiles still have spaces for the superficial things. Height. Eye colour. Job. Music taste, movies, hobbies in general. Those things are useful to know, but they’re misleading in terms of how compatible you are with someone. What OLD should really establish is the kind of dealbreaking stuff: Do you want children, are you a cat or dog person, a late or early person, tidy or messy, loud or quiet, which condiments are appropriate to keep in the fridge? (And obviously the more serious stuff like political views, etc, but I’m being serious about the condiments.) Some of them are trying to address things like this, I think this is what OK Cupid tried to do with their quiz format, although letting people add their own quizzes just sort of degenerated until every quiz seems to be about some aspect of sexual preference or bigotry, which is nice. Anyway, rambling.
2. (The big issue.) There is another billion-dollar industry which totally conflicts with the idea of finding your perfect match, which is the general spectrum I will call “rules for dating”. Whether this manifests itself in pick-up artists like Julien Blanc, books like “Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus” and “The Rules”, Cosmo et al’s articles of “10 worst things to do on a first date” or basically anything which professes to increase confidence in speaking to the opposite sex, translating the “language” of the opposite sex (hint: You’re speaking the same language. HTH.) or making your dates more successful. Just… stop! All of these things are terrible and destructive to actual relationship building. Why? Because they make massive assumptions. All of these guides make the assumption that women are after marriage, children, commitment and lots of fluffy shows of “romance”. Whereas all men are after sex. Cheap sex, quick sex, lots of sex. Bam. And a sammich. Not only is it heteronormative, gender constricting crap, it encourages terrible dating behaviour. Women who want marriage and babies are advised to wait and wait and wait and wait and wheedle forever because men “don’t mature” until later, no man ever admits that he wants marriage or children. Which just blatantly isn’t true. If you want marriage and children, be upfront about that. Surprisingly, some men even want this too, being individuals and all that. Likewise, men who want casual sex are advised that women don’t want casual sex ever, and so it must be tricked out of them with declarations of love, romantic gestures and promises of longevity that they don’t intend to fulfil. Conversely, if you’re a woman after casual sex? Nope, can’t do that, he’ll think you’re a slut and be disgusted by you. Man after babies and children? Don’t be upfront about that because she’ll think you’re creepy, and run away screaming. And of course the fact that most people have extremely varied interests and preferences and are dating for reasons other than and/or in addition to wanting marriage or sex.
These kind of manuals (and the general principles which sneak into general consciousness and provide common ideas about dating) promise that you will get what you want if you behave in a certain way, look a certain way, say certain things. They warn that being yourself is a terrible idea which will just put the prospective partner off you. (Gee, thanks!) The result is that people hold back and try to behave in this “perfect” way when on dates. They avoid certain topics of conversation, believing that part of themselves to be so unattractive that it might put the person off. People conduct entire relationships based on these kinds of lies or falsities. Of course, once you’re relaxed in the relationship itself, this all falls apart, because you can’t keep up that kind of pretence for long. So the relationship ends and people conclude that it’s because they’re terrible at relationships. That’s not necessarily the case, but you’re looking at the wrong things. If I went into a shop and looked at food processors, and the salesperson told me about all of the features that I want, the right blades, the right size dish, easy to clean, a nice colour in my kitchen etc, it’s all perfect. I buy it and get it home and open the box and put it in my kitchen. I put some food into it and it mangles it all up and makes a cacaphonous sound. I look at the box again and I realise that I haven’t bought a food processor at all, I’ve bought a stereo. It has good sound quality and takes all kinds of media input and outputs to anything you want, but I didn’t want a stereo, I wanted a food processor (let’s just pretend this is massively in the future and the design of the two things is really similar or something.) Relationships played to any set of so-called universal rules are like this, except the person keeps trying to convince you that they are a food processor and keeps trying to turn your food into music rather than just saying “Maybe we’re not so well suited, I’d rather find someone with some MP3s and a large CD collection.” while you starve to death because you keep jamming your food into a tape deck. (Fool.)
All of the things which we think are unattractive will have some kind of counterpart to them somewhere. Maybe you’re always late – well, another person who is late might appreciate that because you don’t expect them to always be on time. Or you clip your toenails and leave them on the floor. One person might not mind that because they vacuum daily anyway and anyway it means you can’t complain about them using a new cup every time they get another drink. Being interested in something “lame” like online video games, or stamp collecting = a great way to get to know someone who happens to share your interest, or a guaranteed period of time regularly where they get to indulge their own solitary and not-interesting-to-anyone-else hobby. You feel insecure and appreciate regular text messages? Find someone who likes to text constantly. Feel suffocated by too much contact when you’re apart? Find someone who also likes their independence.
I can see why the idea of set “rules” for dating might have been useful in the past, when people were forced to only date people they had accidentally met in person, because they make relationships appear more harmonious than they actually are, at least until you’re married (and in the old days, then it was too late). But this is the kind of thing that OLD was (should have been!) made to avoid, IMO.
3. So. You get a bunch of people who are following the “rules for dating”, throwing at you everything they think you want to hear, and sometimes that rings true. You’re not really aware of red/green flags for what a good potential relationship looks like, mostly because in general people haven’t been doing that for long enough to figure out mostly accepted rules, and have those assimilated into general knowledge like “rules for dating” are currently. The people who might have been a good match for you are also being played by these games and/or playing them themselves, presenting some kind of stereo-perfect version of themselves when really you want a food processor. You can’t see who is a stereo and who is a food processor because their profile is full of irrelevant details like what voltage they are and what different colours you can order the faceplate in. Likewise, you haven’t put on your profile that you’re looking for someone who can mince up your food on X, Y and Z setting but just that you want something which matches your kitchen and something that has several speeds. It’s a total mess, currently.
4. If people started being honest it would mean you could have totally separate dating sites for those looking for potential long term relationships and those looking for casual hook ups. This split is starting a bit, but it’s not completely happened yet, mainly because of those pervasive “rules for dating” kind of myths. So dating sites are riddled with men saying they are looking for long term relationships when really they want a casual hook up and they will drop you like a rock when they’ve got it. (Again, it does seem to be worse for women in this respect but that’s anecdotal.) Dating sites are also not very good at having policies which address this meaning that the same bloke can stick around on a long term dating site, showing all the right things and convincing women in succession that he’s definitely interested in a relationship and then jumping right back on the site when he gets bored. That’s a bit of an idealogical argument there, and of course you couldn’t judge every separate user by strict criteria, but there should be a higher bar for pisstakers, perhaps. (This is a bit moot because I have no idea how you’d go about policing it, TBH.)
In conclusion, I think OLD is great but at the moment it’s not being used in the most effective way, but it could be quite easily, and I’ll be interested to see how it evolves.
I agree with pretty much everything you’ve said, and I know plenty of people who have had bad experiences with online dating for some of the reasons you suggest.
But I’ve had good experiences (only tried OK Cupid), and I think it’s because I’m as much myself online as I am in person. I put myself out there in a limited but sincere way, and don’t curate my profile for what I think “they” are looking for, and so the people that respond are people that resonates with. For example, my profile was really long, and my friends would advise me to make it short and punchy. I was like, well, I talk a lot, and I’m sure some people will be fine with a long profile–and plenty of people were. And sorting the people with genuine interest from the people playing a numbers game to try to get laid as quickly as possible was also really easy.
Granted it’s been a few years since I’ve used it, so maybe I got in before the quizzes and matching part went downhill, but I think the problems you suggest are real, but it’s relatively easy to avoid them as well.
I don’t like online dating for the same reason I don’t like dating in real life: It’s an exercise in judging people. But I do think online dating makes this a much more efficient process.
In my opinion the problem with dating in general nowadays is people don’t seem to take time to make actual lasting connections before jumping into marriage. they have some minor thing in common and then try to base the whole relationship off that not realising that beyond it they are very different people (well, they realise *eventually* but by then its a much bigger deal than if they had just gone on two or three dates).
I feel this problem is exacerbated by online dating since it makes this oversight easier to occur… that isn’t to say that online dating is inherently flawed, rather that too many people don’t know how to use properly because too many people don’t know how to get into relationships in general properly.
Referring to Tim’s post about the 10 types of single 30 year old guys; the “normal guy who just hasn’t met the right girl yet and he really wishes people would stop looking at him with those pitying eyes” is the kind of person who can benefit *greatly* from internet dating because that kind of guy (and the female equivalent of course) is patient, knows what he/she really wants in a partner and has the self insight to appropriately invest themselves in the relationship (enough to foster a connection but not so much that its exhausting/smothering).
Unfortunately as it stands now it seems that many people on dating sites are one of the other 9 types of single people (like the “guy who peaked too early” and the “total package”) who tend to rush into relationships, are unaware of other peoples (or their own) needs, have unrealistic expectations or a combination of those three. The other issue is that certain scurrilous people or groups use online dating for unethical means like tricking lonely people out of their money convincing married people to cheat on their spouses while the site’s owners make a tidy profit (*cough* ashley-madison.com *cough*)
Basically I feel online dating is one of those innovations that is very helpful but only if it’s understood and used properly, much like FB or Twitter it can give more opportunities than you had before, but if you’re not careful with how you use it, it will come back to bite you…
Thank you for bringing up fake profiles. POF decommissioned its Intimate Encounters feature because they realized it hosted only 6000 some-odd female profiles that were mostly horny guys hiding behind fake cute female profiles and interacting with “real” horny guy profiles.
We had only dial-up connections then, at 54 cents a minute, so sending pictures via email was not really an option. We treasure the pictures we exchanged. I printed all the emails too and that,s a good thing because the internet server went out of business a few years later and my mail account was through them,
You should submit this into “Chicken Soup for the Hopeless Romantic’s Soul” or similar. I want my romance to be met like this. I enjoy writing handwritten letters and scenting them with my favorite cologne.
My warning via experience would be to be very very careful about not letting an infatuation with someone’s online persona blind you to who they reveal themselves to be in person. It can be easy, especially if you tend to connect with people on an intellectual/conversational level, to be attracted to how someone makes conversation with you and then fill in the blanks of what you want them to be.
Sadly, when I was a naive 19 year old, I started talking online to a young man who was smart, opinionated, and had a cute picture. It took a while before we were able to meet in person, and while we talked online, I became attracted to the one facet of his personality he was choosing to show me. By the time we met, I was convinced I really liked him. And that led me to brush off or not take seriously some very negative things that started coming out in person (anger, misogyny). When he sexually assaulted me, I was so surprised. But looking back, there were warning signs that were clear to see, I was just so convinced that I knew who he really was that I didn’t see them. Of course, we all know that it’s very possible to be assaulted by someone you meet in a bar or a class or anywhere else. But I am certain that if I met this guy in a bar and didn’t have a preconceived notion of how special he was, I would have picked up on the red flags more easily – they were not buried deeply. That’s not to say that everyone online is fake, but the persona that everyone including you has online is incomplete. Sometimes there’s a great person behind a great persona, but it’s not a guarantee.
It was a game to get you to think that he’s the bright fish in the pond. But it’s your own fucking fault, because you couldn’t be satisfied with the hard-working, mild-mannered boy who had a crush on you and didnt make your Gina tingle.
Also, the twist you probably haven’t even thought of: his anger and misogyny is due to the fact that he knew you’d shit on him if he didn’t play those fish games with you.
Congratulations, you fail. But what are you complaining for? Someone turned you on for a while and all you had to do was lay back and get pleasured. What a fucking tragedy.
I am introverted and experience social anxiety, which makes meeting someone in person excruciatingly uncomfortable. To further exacerbate the problem, I live in the largest town (population: approximately 2000) in a county with an incredibly low population (approximately 13,000 in 1400 square miles), where my “romantic options” are quite limited. In this area, we don’t have a great bar scene, and we don’t have much in the way of activities or events where meeting someone and forming a romantic relationship would be a realistic expectation. The pool of single people within even 10 years of my age is very, very small. Should someone like me be stuck hoping to meet someone in person when I’m “in the big city” doing my grocery shopping?
That being said, what is wrong with wanting to expand your pool of possible mates? The majority of the people here do not share my core beliefs or world views, to the extent that it would be a deal breaker. I simply cannot tolerate a bigot, much less form a meaningful relationship with one. Plus, what about the other introverts who are sitting at home, alone or with a tight-knit group of friends? I don’t want to miss out on the possibility of meeting all those people – I have things in common with them, but might never have the opportunity to meet them if I only date people I meet at bars (for example.) Online dating provides a more comfortable setting for introverts.
I do not participate in online dating, as I am in a long-term relationship at the moment (with a friend of a friend). However, if we were to split up in the future, I would absolutely give online dating a try. Actually, I did meet two of my ex-boyfriends in online video games. I realize this is a little bit different than online dating in the “traditional” sense, but I have to imagine the experience was similar. We chatted online, took a particular liking one another, spoke to each other, exchanged photos, and eventually met in person.
My favorite thing about meeting these people online was that we got to know each other relatively well, and liked one another, without being too concerned with vastly overrated external appearances. I find that if I care about someone, that person’s outward appearance becomes more attractive to me than it would have been if I ran into him by chance. Would I have gotten involved with either one of them if we had been at the same bar at the same time? Probably not. But I can say that I loved one of them more than I have ever loved another romantic partner. I would have hated to have missed out on our time together.
Yes, meeting someone online has its downfalls, in that words are only one part of a conversation, and the attached body language and facial expressions are missed during the initial, online phase. But meeting someone in person is just as flawed. Generally, in an in-person meeting, we make a flash decision about someone based on his or her appearance. I think it is beautiful to avoid that flash judgment and really get down to who the person is before making a decision regarding your compatibility. Besides, either way, you eventually get to know the person for who he is, which is what you really need to do in order to pick a life partner, anyway. Why should anyone judge a couple in love by the way they first met one another? Both methods are flawed, but if the chemistry is there, the results are the same, so I see nothing wrong with widening your pool of potential mates through online dating.
Social anxiety for women? Oh, boo hoo. It’s sooooo hard to stand there and just let yourself be talked to. Are you fucking kidding me? Try being a man and being insulted the moment you open your mouth, having people turn their back to you in mid sentence, point out your flaws or ask you stupid make-or-break questions just to see how quick and sharp you are and if you are even worthy of getting a non-fake number. Such a fucking joke. All you have to do is put on some eyeliner and not eat like a fucking pig so you stay under 180 lbs – and for a good number of women, apparently that’s even too much to ask for.

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Best Online Dating Sites of 2017
Best Online Dating Sites of 2017
For many, dating online has become perfectly normal, even expected. And it makes sense given our current cultural comfort with technology and increasingly busy schedules. Days are long and few places are actually conducive to approaching people and getting to know them. Alternatively, turning to the web means being able to meet more potential partners than would otherwise be physically possible! That being said, there are tons of dating sites to choose from and finding the right one is crucial.
Depending on what you're looking for, you can narrow down your options to a specific category – there are all types and there's bound to be at least one that truly caters to you. Once you've gotten that far, you may want to consider the quality of service you're willing to potentially pay for. For instance, you should be concerned about keeping your information and privacy safe, and some sites will put more emphasis on security than others. Or maybe, you'd rather join a site that offers more exceptional features, like video chat and online roleplaying forums.
Safe to say, there is a lot of information for any one person to sort through — that's why we've gone ahead for you and ranked each site within their respective categories.
Here are the top 10 across the board. Explore the menu bar to see each individual category.
Built with the user in mind, Zoosk.com provides a superior dating experience. Rather than push a lengthy questionnaire, this site evolves based on observed preferences to provide matches.
How Online Dating Works
Online dating can be broken down into three parts: signing up, creating a profile, and interacting with other members. Depending on the site, the first two parts may take more or less time, but it’s important to note that the more accurately you answer the questionnaires and the more care you put into creating a profile that reflects who you are, the better chances you have of being matched with someone worth your while. When it comes to interacting, it can be as simple as sending someone a casual 'wink' or liking their photo, or you can send them a more detail message if you feel drawn to do so. Each site will have unique features to offer, all of which we’ve reviewed in detailed for you.
While most sites require payment to access their full roster of features, we recommend starting with a free account. This way, you’ll get a taste for the service without committing to a monthly plan right off the bat.
The Shift Towards Online Dating
With people mobilizing more than before for school, work, and adventure, online dating becomes a practice of convenience. Think about it: Where else could you go to meet so many singles ready to mingle? Sure, nothing beats meeting someone face-to-face and feeling the sparks fly, but there’s really no guarantee of meeting anyone and getting to know them in most public spaces. The fact remains that online dating sites are a unique and effective way of connecting with more people who share your intentions than would otherwise be physically possible.
How To Choose The Right Site
As you can imagine, there are a lot of different sites to choose from out there. From the mainstream ones to those of a more “risque ” nature, it’s tremendously important to consider your options before spending the time and energy getting set up on one. While sites in the matchmaking category (such as eHarmony.com and Match.com ) focus on helping people find true love, adult sites (such as Passion.com. Adultfriendfinder.com ) tend to serve the purpose of exploring one’s sexuality and immediate gratification. Furthermore, niche dating sites like those in the Religious. Ethnic, Wealthy or Senior categories are really geared for people with a vested interest in those respective verticals.
Best Dating Sites Of 2017
At AskMen, our team of editors has personally reviewed upwards of 110 dating sites in order to present you with the very best. We spent time browsing and testing features, as well as reading other customer reviews, with the goal of being able to provide honest and comprehensive insight into what differentiates a great service from one that’s just “OK”. And although our opinions may be subjective, we did base all ratings on a standardized scale in an attempt to be fair.
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How well online dating works, according to someone who has been studying it for years
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A couple of months ago, I was sitting at a bar minding my own business when the woman next to me did something strange. Surrounded by potential partners, she pulled out her phone, hid it coyly beneath the counter, and opened the online dating app Tinder. On her screen, images of men appeared and then disappeared to the left and right, depending on the direction in which she wiped.
I felt a deep sense a rejection — not personally, but on behalf of everyone at the bar. Instead of interacting with the people around her, she chose to search for a companion elsewhere online.
I wondered to myself, is this what online dating has done to us? Is it creating a new reality in which people actively avoid real-life interactions?
Of course, others have worried about these sorts of questions before. But the fear that online dating is changing us, collectively, that it’s creating unhealthy habits and preferences that aren’t in our best interests, is being driven more by paranoia than it is by actual facts.
«There are a lot of theories out there about how online dating is bad for us,» Michael Rosenfeld, a sociologist at Stanford who has been conducting a long-running study of online dating, told me the other day. «And mostly they’re pretty unfounded.»
Rosenfeld, who has been keeping tabs on the dating lives of more than 3,000 people, has gleaned many insights about the growing role of apps like Tinder. They are important today — roughly one of every four straight couples now meet on the Internet. (For gay couples, it’s more like two out of every three). The apps have been surprisingly successful — and in ways many people would not expect.
In fact, by several measures, online dating has proved even more useful — both to individuals and society — than the traditional avenues it has replaced.
I spoke with Rosenfeld to hear more about his research, to learn about the ways in which the rise of online dating is defining modern love, and to talk about the biggest misconceptions people have about online dating. The interview has been edited for length and clarity.
You have one of the most unique data sets about modern romance. What have you learned about how people date today?
Well, one of the first things you have to know to understand how dating — or really courtship rituals, since not everyone calls it dating — has changed over time is that the age of marriage in the United States has increased dramatically over time. People used to marry in their early 20s, which meant that most dating that was done, or most courting that was done, was done with the intention of settling down right away. And that’s not the life that young people lead anymore. The age of first marriage is now in the late twenties, and more people in their 30s and even 40s are deciding not to settle down.
The rise of phone apps and online dating websites gives people access to more potential partners than they could meet at work or in the neighborhood. It makes it easier for someone who is looking for something very specific in a partner to find what they are looking for. It also helps the people who use the apps by allowing them to enjoy a pattern of regular hookups that don’t have to lead to relationships. I think these things are definitely characteristic of modern romance.
Part of what you have uncovered during your research is how drastic the rise of online dating has been. That’s something not everyone thinks this is a good thing. Why are many people skeptical?
The worry about online dating comes from theories about how too much choice might be bad for you. The idea is that if you’re faced with too many options you will find it harder to pick one, that too much choice is demotivating. We see this in consumer goods — if there are too many flavors of jam at the store, for instance, you might feel that it’s just too complicated to consider the jam aisle, you might end up skipping it all together, you might decide it’s not worth settling down with one jam.
I don’t think that that theory, even if it’s true for something like jam, applies to dating. I actually don’t see in my data any negative repercussions for people who meet partners online. In fact, people who meet their partners online are not more likely to break up — they don’t have more transitory relationships. Once you’re in a relationship with somebody, it doesn’t really matter how you met that other person. There are online sites that cater to hookups, sure, but there are also online sites that cater to people looking for long-term relationships. What’s more, many people who meet in the online sites that cater to hookups end up in long-term relationships. This environment, mind you, is just like the one we see in the offline world.
There’s no obvious pattern by which people who meet online are worse off. And, conversely, online dating has real benefits. For people who have a hard time finding partners in their day-to-day, face-to-face life, the larger subset of potential partners online is a big advantage for them. For folks who are meeting people everyday—really younger people in their early twenties—online dating is relevant, but it really becomes a powerful force for people in thin dating markets.
In a 2012 paper, I wrote about how among heterosexuals, the people who are most likely to use online dating are the middle-aged folks, because they’re the ones in the thinnest dating market. It’s harder to feel alone when you’re 23, because everyone is a potential partner. But when you get to 40, most people your age are already settled down.
So it’s fair to say that the experience, at least from a bird’s-eye view, isn’t as different as we make it out to be? At the very least, it isn’t worse in the way many say?
Yes, I think that’s definitely right.
Look, there’s always a fear that comes with a new technology. The idea that the new technology is going to undervalue some really important social values is real and rampant. People have had that fear about the telephone and the automobile. They have even had it about things like washing machines. If people weren’t going to go to the laundromat to wash their clothes together, how would we spend time together? That was something people were legitimately concerned about. But now that we have washing machines — and know that people still talk to each other — it’s clear that that fear was overblown, that it was unnecessary.
I think the same fears are expressed a lot about the phone apps and Internet dating. The worry is that it’s going to make people more superficial. If you look at apps like Tinder and Grinder, they mostly function by allowing people to look at others’ pictures. The profiles, as many know, are very brief. It’s kind of superficial. But it’s superficial because we’re kind of superficial; it’s like that because humans are like that. Judging what someone else looks like first is not an attribute of technology, it’s an attribute of how we look at people. Dating, both modern and not, is a fairly superficial endeavor.
When you walk into a room, whether it’s a singles bar or a church, you’re making these same sorts of judgments, the same kind of subconscious evaluations. It’s not the technology that makes people superficial. How someone else looks is important to us — it always has been. The visual cortex of our brain has a very powerful hold on how we interact with the world around us. There’s nothing wrong or really new with prioritizing that.
One of the most interesting things you have found is that online dating, despite its reputation, actually seems to usher people toward marriage in a way real life dating doesn’t. Can you elaborate?
That’s right. One of the things I have found out as part of my research is that people who meet online actually progress to marriage faster than people who meet offline. I think this is happening for many reasons.
No. 1: You can be more selective because you have a bigger group to select from. When you’re using online dating, and there’s the possibility of selecting on characteristics that you know you’re going to like, you’re going to know a lot more about people before a first date.
No. 2: There tends to be extensive communication before the first date. A lot the information-gathering that courtship is really about is sped up by the information you can gather from the profiles and from a person before actually meeting them.
What’s the difference in terms of the timetable — between how quickly people marry through online and real-life dating?
If you look at the couples who stay together, about half of the couples who meet through online dating have transitioned to marriage by year four of the relationship. If you look at people who didn’t meet through online dating, the time frame is much longer — half of those couples transition to marriage by year 10 of the relationship. So there’s a substantial difference.
This is because there are couples who meet online who get married right away. I mean, that happens with people who meet offline, too. But when you look at the data, it’s just more common online. And I think that’s because online you do this big, calculated search for your soul mate, and find someone else who agrees and then transition to marriage much more quickly.
Is there also a bit of a self-selection process? Is it possible that people who meet online are marrying faster because they tend to be more marriage-driven from the start?
Yeah, I mean that certainly could be. I think it’s likely that people who look to online dating sites are more intent on finding a partner, especially those using sites like Match.com and eHarmony.
What’s interesting is that that kind of undermines the image that critics of the new technology try to put on the new technology, which is that online dating is all about hookups and superficiality. It turns out that the Internet dating world replicates the offline dating world in a lot of ways, and even exceeds it in others. There are a lot of places you can go where people are looking for more long-term relationships, and there are a lot of places you can go where people are looking for something else.
It’s not just superficiality that the Internet is about. People looking for longer-term relationships exclusively tend to choose the dating websites where profiles are more lengthy and text-driven. If you’re looking for a life partner, online dating is pretty good for that.
So there’s a misconception. In aggregate, it’s actually doing a lot of good.
The need for love, romance, relationships and sex — these are pretty basic human needs. And the ability to match people who would have otherwise not found each other is a powerful outcome of the new technology.
About 75 percent of the people who meet online had no prior connection. They didn’t have friends in common. They’re families didn’t know each other. So they were perfect strangers. And prior to the Internet, it was kind of hard for perfect strangers to meet. Perfect strangers didn’t come into contact in that intimate sort of way. One of the real benefits of Internet search is being able to find people you might have commonalities with but otherwise would never have crossed paths with.
If we’re meeting perfect strangers in ways we weren’t before, is there anything to be said about online dating and the bringing together of people from different races, cultures, religions?
One of the most interesting questions about the Internet as a sort of social intermediary is whether it brings different kinds of people together more than would have been brought together before. If you think about the traditional technology of family, which was the marriage broker of the past, the family was very selective in terms of its reliance on introducing you to people of the same race, religion and class as potential partners. What’s more, if you were marrying young — at the age of 20 or younger — you really could only marry people from within your close network, from your neighborhood. These were the only people you knew, and they were probably very much like you.
The question about Internet dating specifically is whether it undermines the tendency we have to marry people from similar backgrounds. The data suggests that online dating has almost as much a pattern of same-race preference as offline dating, which is a little surprising because the offline world has constraints of racial segregation that the online world was supposed to not have. But it turns out online dating sites show that there’s a strong preference for same-race dating. There’s pretty much the same pattern of people partnering with folks of the same race.
What’s unclear is how much of this tendency online is really a result of preference and how much is due to the websites feeding you potential partners that are of the same race as you. These websites use algorithms to try to figure out who you like. And if they assume you’re going to prefer people of your own race, they might feed you a steady diet of potential matches of the same race. Since the algorithms tend to be proprietary — they don’t share them — we don’t know whether this is skewing the data.
There are other aspects in which online dating leads to different results than offline dating. One is that people are more likely to date someone of another religion. I think that’s because you can’t tell what someone’s religion is from their picture. On online dating, the picture marks you with gender and race pretty clearly, but religion is something that you have to dig through to figure out.
The other big difference is that same-sex couples are much more likely to meet their partner online. In my data, about 22 percent of straight couples met online. For gay couples, it’s about 67 percent. Online is tremendously more efficient for gays and lesbians. And that’s because it’s much harder for them to identify potential partners offline.
What about socioeconomic class? Are people more likely to partner with people of different socioeconomic backgrounds when they meet online?
In my data, it’s pretty much the same. The preference for partners of similar socioeconomic and education backgrounds has always been there, but it’s never been an overwhelmingly strong preference. It’s never been the case that people who married someone of a greater or lesser education level were ostracized in the way other attributes might have been.
From what I can tell, there’s a little bit of a tendency for people — especially women — to prefer people who claim to make a lot of money. But the truth is that most profiles don’t report income, and in the income ranges where most people live there isn’t that much of a difference in profile attractiveness. Whereas in the actual attractiveness of their photo, there is. So social class turns out to be kind of a secondary factor.
I want to bring back the jam analogy, if that’s okay. When there are more jams to choose from, do people end up trying more jams than they would otherwise before figuring out which flavor they like best? In other words, are people dating several people at once more often now because of online dating?
Relationships are different from jam in that when you get involved with somebody, they have feelings too, they have a claim on you more than the jam does, right? The jam doesn’t care if you try another jam next week, but if you form a relationship with somebody, they would or at least might care.
I haven’t seen that the rise of this technology has made people more skittish about commitment. One of the things that we know about relationships in the United States, contrary, I think, to what many people would guess, is that the divorce rate has been going down for a while. They have been going down since the early 1990s, when they hit their peak. So during the Internet era, during the phone app and online dating era, it’s not as if people are leaving their marriages and going back out into the dating market. Even people who are regular online dating users, even people who are not looking to settle down, recognize that being in the constant churn finding someone new is hard work.
It’s not all sunshine in the hookup culture. But I don’t think that it defines online dating. That’s not what the data say. The declining divorce rate is among many signs that the rise of this technology is not ruining relationships.
I don’t know about multiple partners, specifically, but I wouldn’t be surprised if that were true. The people whom I have interviewed about Tinder and Grinder, some of them are on a steady diet of short relationships, where they meet a person, hook up, and then the next weekend they’re looking for somebody else. Part of what’s cool about the phone apps is that it’s not only easier to meet people, it’s easier to block people and then get them out of your space. There’s a sort of safety enhancement that I think allows people to stop someone else from following them around. It makes hookup culture easier.
You speak to a lot of people as part of your research. You hear a lot of their stories. Have any stood out that somehow encapsulate the spirit of modern dating? Or is there something you’ve learned that others don’t seem to appreciate?
I think we have a tendency to assume that settling down is what everybody wants. That’s an assumption that’s built into the way in which we narrate people’s life histories and the way Hollywood crafts movie endings, where people end up together. They might not get married, as they tended to in most older movies, but at the very least the male protagonist and the female protagonist tend to be united by the end. That kind of theme, we assume, is what everybody wants.
There’s a little bit of a tendency now to put off settling down. I don’t see that as problematic. Nor, as it happens, have I found it to be the consequence of online dating.

In the quest to find romance, more of us have turned to online dating. Once stigmatized as a venue for the desperate, online dating has become a normal part of the mating game. A recent survey of 19,000 people who married between 2005 and 2012 found that 35 percent of these new couples met online, with about half of those meeting through an online dating site (Cacioppo et al. 2013).
How can these sites help you find romance, and what pitfalls should you be aware of?
Let’s start with what dating sites can do for you.
Access to more people and more types of people. The most obvious benefit of these websites is that they provide easy access to thousands of potential dates. This can be especially beneficial for people who don’t have a large social circle. In addition to the sheer number of people you can meet, many sites provide an avenue for meeting like-minded people. There are dating sites devoted to particular religious groups, like Christian Mingle or JDate, for example, as well as sites that cater to gay and lesbian daters. (Rosenfeld & Thomas, 2012).
You know where people stand. Unlike other social venues, on an online dating site, you can be fairly certain that everyone you meet is single and looking. This removes a lot of the ambiguity that you face when you meet an interesting person at a work event or a party.
You can break free from traditional gender roles. Because of the ease and relative anonymity of online dating sites, we may take more risk reaching out to people we would not approach in person. And even though men generally contact women more than vice versa on these sites, research has shown that a sizable minority of women do reach out to men they find desirable online, suggesting that these sites allow some women to overcome traditional gender norms that cast them in a passive role of waiting to be approached (Scharlott & Christ, 1995).
It can be good for shy people. Shy or socially anxious individuals often have difficulty forming and maintaining close relationships (Alden & Taylor, 2004; Davila & Beck, 2002). Research suggests that those who are socially anxious (Green, 2001) or introverted (Amichai-Hamburger et al. 2002; Rice & Markey, 2009) feel more comfortable communicating online. These individuals may have an easier time approaching people and opening up online. Thus, it is not surprising that shy people are more likely to look for romance on dating sites (Scharlott & Christ, 1995; Ward & Tracey, 2004).
Many of the cons are the flip side of the pros.
Too many options can be a bad thing. As discussed, one benefit of online dating sites is access to hundreds, even thousands of potential mates—but having all those options is not always a great thing. A large body of literature on decision-making shows that, in general, when we have too many choices available to us, we’re less satisfied with any one choice (Schwartz, 2004). Having no choices can lead to misery, but too many options can overwhelm and lead you to worry that you’ve chosen wrong. You can feel confident in your decision about which car to buy when there are only three under consideration, but if there are hundreds, you’ll constantly second-guess yourself and wonder if you could have done better. The same principle applies to online dating: The sheer number of potential partners creates abundant choice. So if one dater doesn’t suit the bill, there are hundreds more who could be better. But this can also lead you to pass up on potential dates because with all those options, you can’t help but think, «There must be someone better out there.» Online dating sites can thus foster an attitude in which potential mates are objectified like products on a store shelf, rather than people (Finkel et al. 2012).
Profiles provide limited information. Online profiles are missing vital information you can only glean in person (Finkel et al. 2012), so it can be difficult to know if you’re really compatible with someone based solely on what they have shared on a dating site. Research shows that people spend their time on dating sites searching criteria such as income and education. and physical attributes like height and body type, when what they really need is information about the actual experience of interacting with and getting to know the person on the other end of the profile (Frost et al. 2008). In addition, when we read vague information about someone, we mentally fill in the blanks with specific details that may be incorrect (Norton & Frost, 2007). For example, when you read in a man’s profile that he’s a movie buff, you might think that’s something you have in common, but when you get to talking about movies on your date you realize that you’re a foreign film aficionado, while he’s obsessed with horror flicks. One study of online daters found that most viewed each other as less similar, and liked each other less, after than before their offline dates (Norton et al. 2007).
The sites can put too much focus on physical attractiveness. It is well documented that physical attractiveness is a major factor in romantic attraction, especially initial attraction (Sprecher, 1989). Not surprisingly, physically attractive people are more successful at online dating (Hitsch et al. 2005). But in real life, after we get to know someone and like their personality. we begin to find them more physically appealing as well (Kniffin & Wilson, 2004). Making a quick decision based on an online photo doesn’t allow for this slower development of physical attraction and may cause us to dismiss potential mates to whom we could become attracted.
There’s pressure for things to turn romantic quickly. One benefit of online dating is that you know those on the site are single and looking, which reduces ambiguity. But this also creates pressure quickly to turn your online connection into something romantic, rather than letting romantic feelings develop more slowly. When you meet someone in the context of an online dating site, the stage is set to look for an immediate romantic connection— and to abandon the effort if there’s no spark. This is only exacerbated by the emphasis on physical attractiveness created by online dating profiles. Romantic relationships often do develop slowly, rather than taking off from instant mutual attraction. Stanford University’s “How Couples Meet and Stay Together Survey” queried a nationally representative sample of adults to determine how and when they met their current romantic partner (Rosenfeld & Reuben, 2011). In my own analysis of this data, I examined the age at which survey respondents met their current partner and compared this to the age at which they became romantically involved, to get a rough sense of how long it took couples to go from first meeting to a romantic relationship. I found that those who met their partners via online dating sites became romantically involved significantly sooner (an average of two-and-a-half months) than those who met in other ways (an average of one-and-a-half years). This suggests that online dating sites don’t facilitate slowly finding love the way that we often do offline.
It could become a crutch. As mentioned earlier, those who are introverted or shy may find online dating more palatable than other ways of looking for love. But if we choose to focus only on online dating, because it’s safer, we could miss out on other opportunities to meet people.
For more on misconceptions about online dating, read my post on 4 Myths about Online Dating .
Gwendolyn Seidman, Ph.D. is an associate professor of psychology at Albright College, who studies relationships and cyberpsychology. Follow her on Twitter for updates about social psychology, relationships, and online behavior.
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Submitted by Anonymous on July 9, 2014 — 10:29am
I have been using online dating sites for several years now. While I think the sites have gotten better about identifying and booting scammers, I have been «scammed» more than a few times by miscreants, usually foreigners, who prey on lonely hearts, particularly those who list their professions and incomes. They can be quite sophisticated AND PATIENT in hooking unsuspecting victims, before trying to reel them in. Luckily, I learned to recognize them before falling prey, but sometimes it’s difficult to know. They can be very clever.
Moreover, as in the world at large, there are A LOT of «players» online—people who are extremely dishonest. Typically, they post old photos from when they were 100 pounds lighter and 10 years younger, or they post photos that hide their body shape, which is not just a physical attribute, but a commentary on their lifestyle. I’ve had more than a few claim to love physical fitness and healthy eating, only to confess upon meeting, at which point it becomes obvious, that they actually do neither. If they lie and obfuscate what will become readily apparent upon meeting, what other, more important, character traits are they lying about? More importantly, that they don’t see the problem inherent in the dishonest representation is a huge red flag.
People online, as in traditional dating, are also often dishonest about the status of their relationship with an ex-partner. Some are still in a relationship, or in the break-up stage, using online dates as pawns in their relationship drama. Or they haven’t processed and grieved the break-up, using someone new to distract them from their feelings.
On a similar theme, many will say that they are emotionally available for a relationship, when, in fact, they are not. I have discovered a large number of emotionally avoidant people, who find it difficult in the extreme to invest emotionally, even in developing a friendship. These types generally want to be «pen pals» for months and months before ever wanting to have more personal communication (phone, Skype, face-to-face meeting). If the friendship progresses beyond superficial communication, they usually stop communicating and disappear, leaving you to wonder what happened. Dating online, especially by email, makes it very easy to just disappear without a trace. Few feel the need to provide a kind explanation before disappearing. But I guess that’s true in traditional dating, as well.
Finally, online dating, particularly long-distance, brings significant challenges. First, friendships/relationship generally begin with emails, which can be useful for sharing information and testing the waters, but are fraught with communication limitations. I have found that misunderstandings and misinterpretations of information AND EMOTIONS related by email are common, even among those like me who have excellent writing skills and are freely emotive. Those who are shy or socially anxious prefer endless email exchanges, but emails are tedious, time-consuming, and a primitive form of communication.
Second, those who live in a major metropolitan area can «shop» online locally, and thus avoid the difficulties of dating long-distance, but for those who live in more rural areas, or who are LGBT, for example, long-distance dating may be necessary. Distance obviously makes it harder to meet in person. Technology can provide alternatives, but obviously there’s nothing like spending time with someone in person to see how they behave in different circumstances, in relation to you and others around them. Moreover, once a friendship/relationship develops, the distance can create frustration when you both want to spend more time together, but can’t. It also adds financial stress, since commuting can be expensive (and time-consuming). Finally, spending long weekends here and there with each other can create an artificial environment, more like mini-vacations, that make it hard to simulate day-to-day life, and thus make it hard to accurately assess compatibility of lifestyles. If you’re both already feeling the rush and excitement of the connection, spending time together in a vacation-like setting does not afford an accurate opportunity for a realistic assessment of the relationship. While this can be true of traditional dating, long-distance dating doesn’t allow the parties to spend short bits of time together, doing everyday chores, but creates rather intense, action-packed weekends, between which you are relegated to technology while you each try to share your lives with each other.
In other words, long-distance dating is not for the faint of heart. They are VERY challenging. One should seriously think about the logistics of long-distance dating, especially what might happen if you fall in love with someone far away. Will you give up everything and move to where they are? Will they? I’ve had my heart broken a few times when women whom I had fallen in love with decided the relationship was just too stressful, too time-consuming, too expensive, and required too much change. Later, they admitted that they hadn’t even considered the logistics of long-distance dating when contacting me. Ultimately, many want the fairy-tale romance without having to invest time, energy, money, and emotion. Again, that’s true of traditional daters, but online dating, particularly long-distance dating, requires an even greater investment, which many don’t consider before making contact.
Submitted by Gwendolyn Seidman Ph.D. on July 23, 2014 — 3:54pm
You’re right that people are not always 100% honest in the online dating context (or the offline dating context for that matter), but extreme misrepresentations are actually pretty rare. It’s common for people to pretend to be a little thinner or a little taller, but gross exaggerations are not the norm (see my most recent blog post for more on this research: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/close-encounters/201407/can-you-trust-people-you-meet-. ). Most online daters realize that gross misrepresentations will only get them so far if they plan to carry on an offline relationship (as soon as someone realizes you’re 100 lbs heavier than you said in your profile they are highly unlikely to be interested in a second date).
The long distance issue is an interesting one, and you’re right that it is likely to be a problem for online daters who live outside of major metropolitan areas. When the relationship has always been long distance (rather than a near distance relationship turning into a long distance one at a later point), it does create a relationship environment that isn’t totally natural. You make more time for each other when you are together, plan special outings. You don’t get a sense of what day-to-day existence with this person is really like. Thus, if one of you does decide to relocate for the other, it’s an especially big risk.
Submitted by Melody Matteson on August 4, 2014 — 12:02am
Submitted by Fernando Ardenghi on July 20, 2014 — 10:13pm
1) Take into account women under hormonal treatment because several studies showed contraceptive pills users make different mate choices, on average, compared to non-users. «Only short-term but not long-term partner preferences tend to vary with the menstrual cycle».
2) People often report partner preferences that are not compatible with their choices in real life. (Behavioural recommender systems or other system that learns your preferences are useless) Do NOT offer «Go on dates with people who like what you like» because If man A likes playing cards and woman B also likes playing cards, that does not mean man A likes woman B, or woman B can like man A with the same intensity or interest. Compatibility is STRICT PERSONALITY SIMILARITY and not «meet other people with similar interests»
3) The BIG 5 (Big Five) normative personality test is OBSOLETE. Do not use it any more. The HEXACO (a.k.a. Big Six) is another oversimplification. Online Dating sites have very big databases, in the range of 20,000,000 (twenty million) profiles, so the BIG5 model or the HEXACO model are not enough for predictive purposes. That is why I suggest the 16PF5 test instead.
4) Genetic information is not useful for the Online Dating Industry. Please remember personality = temperament + character Personality is composed of two basic types of traits: traits that an individual acquires, dimensions of character; and traits with biological underpinnings (genetics), dimensions of temperament (Cloninger 1987).
5) Personality Based Recommender Systems are the next generation of recommender systems because they perform far better than Behavioural ones (past actions and pattern of personal preferences) That is the only way to improve recommender systems, to include the personality traits of their users. They need to calculate personality similarity between users but there are different formulas to calculate similarity. In case you had not noticed, recommender systems are morphing to. compatibility matching engines, as the same used in the Online Dating Industry since years, with low success rates. because they mostly use the Big5 to assess personality and the Pearson correlation coefficient to calculate similarity. Please remember: Personality traits are highly stable in persons over 25 years old to 45 years old. Also for matching job seekers with employers, the best predictor of job performance is always: personality. The Wall Street Journal had published an interesting article about Xerox. «When looking for workers to staff its call centers, Xerox Corp. used to pay lots of attention to applicants who had done the job before. Then, a computer program told the printer and outsourcing company that experience doesn’t matter. The software said that what does matter in a good call-center worker—one who won’t quit before the company recoups its USD5,000 investment in training—is personality. »
6) Show compatibility distribution curves for each and every dater. i.e. if you are a man seeking women, to show how compatible you are with a 20,000,000 women database, and to select a bunch of 100 women from 20,000,000 women database.
7) What is important in attracting people to one another IS NOT important in making couples happy. Compatibility is all about a high level on personality similarity between prospective mates for long term mating with commitment. Without offering the NORMATIVE16PF5 (or similar test measuring exactly the 16 personality factors) for serious dating, it will be impossible to innovate and revolutionize the Online Dating Industry
8) The mobile concept evolving. What means mobile for the majority of the persons? SmartPhones? Tablets? All-in-one computers with wi-fi you can take from dining room to the bedroom? In the near future everything will be mobile. Please read EXCELLENT research! Mobile’s Impact on Dating and Relationships.
With less than USD10 Million you can copycat eHarmony or innovate and revolutionize the Online Dating Industry, killing those old & obsolete sites forever.
WorldWide, there are over 5,000 -five thousand- online dating sites but no one is using the 16PF5 (or similar) to assess personality of its members! but no one calculates similarity with a quantized pattern comparison method! but no one can show Compatibility Distribution Curves to each and every of its members! but no one is scientifically proven! No actual online dating site is «scientifically proven» because no one can prove its matching algorithm can match prospective partners who will have more stable and satisfying relationships -and very low divorce rates- than couples matched by chance, astrological destiny, personal preferences, searching on one’s own, or other technique as the control group in a peer reviewed Scientific Paper for the majority (over 90%) of its members.
Submitted by RichGirl on August 3, 2014 — 4:14pm
It is very difficult to meet the right one in this world People are mostly liars and hide their real intention I think i am a little bit lucky, because i met my hero on a dating site http://www.erisdating.com or http://www.angelreturn.com do not be hopeless, There are still nice and honest people who can give you the love you deserve Life is short and it has no meaning without love.
Submitted by Northern_Guy on September 28, 2015 — 2:08am
If you want people who are looking for just a physical relationship (short OR longer term) then society must destigmatize and stop demonizing people who simply prefer this. If people who «just wanted sex» had a place where these kinds of people were looking for eachother, I think there would be far less trouble for people looking for long term relationships. Trouble is, men would line up in droves on a site like this, but women — due to the stigma — would never join such a «just sex» site. As such, there are likely many women on dating sights who truly DO just want a physical relationship and men are finding them there.
Men are simple creatures. We take the path of least resistance when it comes to finding partners — why make it harder? If there were NO women at all getting into sexual relationships quickly from online dating services, these men would look elsewhere.
The trick lies with women who get into the physical aspect of the relationship quickly, and are trusting someone they don’t really know yet to keep their word they are looking for «something more». To me this is not so much a case of «those sneaky men getting sex» as much as it is a case of misplaced trust and rushing into a physical relationship too quickly.
Then again, most people will just run with the status quo, which is: it’s the (horny) man’s fault.
Submitted by Mids on May 28, 2016 — 3:06pm
And women will go on these sites. Nothing wrong with wanting sex only but if people make it clear on their profile that they want a real relationship then sex only people need to back off.
Submitted by David Grant on December 7, 2015 — 8:49pm
Thanks for a great article with some valuable advice. I have been and off online dating sites for a longtime and while I haven’t found any success, a friend of mine did. He found someone quick and got married, but I am not certain his case was common. I think a lot of the success depends on the expectations people have in finding their mates, their emotional state of mind, and how well they communicate. While online dating sites haven’t provided much success for me, they have provided me a good opportunity to improve my communications skills(something I have had feedback for). I have also tried speed dating joining groups with similar interests. These haven’t provided any success either, but I have met a lot of new people and they have provided some fun while going through the journey. At this point, I haven’t been looking because I have gone through the tragedies of losing both of my parents and have needed the time to grieve through this process. Once I have gone through it(it has been nine months so far), I will feel ready to try again. In the meantime, I have focused on learning new hobbies, like ballroom dancing and a foreign language(French) which have helped to make this process more enjoyable.
Submitted by willsmith on February 4, 2016 — 1:01am